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Re: nVidia GeForce 450 mid range 3 years ago?!

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From: Rin Stowleigh
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 14:17
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On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 07:28:45 -0600, Tanzen <waldby...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 7/2/2013 4:13 AM, Rin Stowleigh wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:47:39 -0600, Tanzen <waldby...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/1/2013 8:05 AM, Xocyll wrote:
>>>> Tanzen <waldby...@yahoo.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
>>>> the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>>>>
>>>>> Whoever said that is extremely prone to exaggeration.
>>>>
>>>> I said it, quoting hardware reviews I read online.
>>>>
>>>> It's 2.5 months away from being 3 years old (introduced Sept 13, 2010)
>>>> and it was aimed at the midrange market.
>>>>
>>>> See for instance
>>>> http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/NVIDIA_GTS_450/
>>>>
>>>> You don't get high performance cards for less than $200, that's the
>>>> midrange/budget area.  High end is going to run probably $400 and up
>>>> (can get a GTX 670 locally around $400 up to the GTX Titan at $1079.)
>>>>
>>>> You can get a lot of performance out of a modern midrange card, but
>>>> you'll never be able to max out all the graphic settings in a new game
>>>> (unless that game has graphics that aren't modern.)
>>>>
>>>> My current card is a generation newer than yours (GTX 550 Ti,)
>>>> outperforms your card in every way, and was a midrange card when I
>>>> bought it a couple years back.   It was designed as a midrange card,
>>>> just as yours was.
>>>>
>>>> Mine is still enough for me in most games simply because I don't use
>>>> FSAA and AF and if need be I can turn down/off shadows and not really
>>>> miss them, and I don't need more than 30FPS ever, giving me enough
>>>> performance for my needs.  In games that let you do it, reducing
>>>> particle count for physics stuff can also give a relatively huge
>>>> performance boost without changing the visuals much.)
>>>>
>>>> You might find this chart handy for comparisons when your shopping for
>>>> your next card.   (Not a substitute for reading reviews about the
>>>> specific card(s) you're considering, but will give you a broad overview
>>>> of relative power.)
>>>>
>>>> Xocyll
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't be so quick to think you know what my card does.  I've seen
>>> pictures of the 450 on nVidia and they show a fairly usual looking card
>>> with a fan.  Mine is a European model, and most of the card consists of
>>> heat sinks.  There is no fan.  It's a GTS 450 Zone Edition Silent
>>> Passive video card. Maybe the specs are similar to the one with a fan,
>>> but I doubt they are identical.
>>
>> I'd be surprised if the lack of fan on the card is the real issue as
>> much as the hot air is just not making it outside the case efficiently
>> enough (sometimes even seemingly innocent cabling can impede airflow).
>>
>> As a cheap solution, you could try one of those dedicated fan cards to
>> divert air from the card.  Or go with liquid cooling for the CPU if
>> that appeals to you (less fans making noise).
>>
>> One of the best ways to reduce noise is to have a powerful GPU.  It
>> will not be working as hard as your currrent one, running cooler and
>> having an easier time at it overall.  Alot of folks think bigger GPU
>> necessarily means bigger power draw and more heat but it's not the
>> case.
>>
>
>If I take the case cover off, would that be a good thing?

Short term would reduce heat but just lets dust into places it
shouldn't be, and if reducing noise is your goal it's kind of
counter-productive.  I've known people that run their rig like that,
though.
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Subject: Re: nVidia GeForce 450 mid range 3 years ago?!
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