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>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:25:01 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>Xocyll wrote: 
>
>>So, I was pondering some of the egregious stupidities in Skyrim and the
>>worst has to be the way you become the leader of various organizations
>>despite having been with those organizations a _very_ short time.
>>
>>You start with two spells (flames and healing), are forced to learn heal
>>other in order to join the Mage College and have to learn frostbite in
>>order to get through the labyrinthian mission.
>>
>>So you can quite literally be a warrior type who doesn't really use
>>magic, knows all of 4 spells at novice level AND be the Arch-Mage.
>>
>>Ditto the thieves guild - yeah sure you uncovered the previous leaders
>>deception, but that automatically makes you the new leader, despite
>>other members having been in the guild for years?
>>
>>The Dark brotherhood - well that one makes sense, you're the Listener
>>after all and just whacked the Emperor.  But then again, why was the
>>player made "the listener"?
>>
>>Honestly, you can become the leader of a guild in a couple of days with
>>totally sub-par guild skills just because they wrote it that way, not
>>because you're qualified or earned it.
>>
>>This is like you going to college to take, oh I dunno, Network
>>Engineering or something, being 2 weeks into a multi-year course when
>>terrorists plant a bomb on campus which you discover and defuse, saving
>>the school.  At which point they not only hand you your degree, they
>>make you a tenured professor and the Dean of the school.
>>
>>It just doesn't happen that way in any reality except *really* bad
>>movies and equally horrible books.
>>
>>Wanna be Arch-Mage, you do a shitload of things for the school, and know
>>ALL the spells (which for Skyrim isn't many but would at least require a
>>90 skill in all mage schools which would take some time to accomplish.)
>>Anything less makes a total mockery of the _College_, and what school
>>would allow that?
>>What does it say about a school, when their top guy knows _less_ than
>>the average freshman applicant?
>>
>>So as the title says, is this outright gifting of titles and leadership
>>roles a console thing?   
>>I don't do consoles and I don't recall ever just being handed guild
>>leadership when totally unqualified in PC Games.
>>Usually you have to do a shitload of things to earn the top slot and
>>actually be qualified for it skill-wise.
>>
>>Is this "You're the hero of the story and by the end of the game you not
>>only save the world, you GET EVERYTHING handed to you" thing a staple in
>>the console world?
>>
>
>Nah, that was a staple c. Baldur's Gate (1998), and hasn't really left
>the genre since. Especially now that you don't have parties.

I don't remember you getting handed anything in Baldur's Gate you didn't
have to earn first.

I don't recall any guilds you could even join much less become leader of
in Balder's Gate, and you could only hit, what, level 6 or 7 in the
game?

Are you thinking of one of the addons or sequels perhaps?

Xocyll
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