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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:11:10 -0400, Rin Stowleigh
<rstow...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 19:58:12 GMT, john...@frontier.com (John Lewis)
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:11:51 -0500, Zaghadka <zagh...@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:47:12 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Rin
>>>Stowleigh wrote: 
>>>
>>>>After giggling like a school girl, on Fri, 22 Mar 2013 18:41:50 GMT,
>>>>john...@frontier.com (John Lewis) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"As many of you know, games released on GOG never come with any kind
>>>>>of DRM protection"
>>>>
>>>>And Steam games don't either, unless the game vendor specifically adds
>>>>DRM (or the less fortunate case that the buyer is too stupid to know
>>>>the difference between authentication and DRM).
>>>
>>>Only one man has that level of intelligence...
>>>
>>
>>... or chronic delusion ???
>>
>>That man is much closer to this newsgroup than Amazon, who quite
>>happily and honestly inform their customers of the DRM present in all
>>their download and boxed games. Look for "DRM: Steam" or "Steam-DRM"
>>in the case of those games requiring Steam. Or you might very (not
>>happily) see Steam-DRM followed by "U-Play" or Games for Windows" in
>>the Amazon product description of those releases with the "Steam +
>>Other" double-dose of DRM affecting many of the current high-profile
>>Steam releases.
>>
>>John Lewis
>
>
>Sticking your hands down the pants of one of my many kill-filees for a
>tug-a-boo I see.  Well just remember the floaters that got flushed
>received what they did for a reason.  Now they are forever sentenced
>to follow me from thread to thread, making what I write their new
>religion as they dutifully follow me, yet I only occasionally have to
>smell the likes of them when someone quotes them, and even then I
>rarely read their drivel.
>
>Are you really surprised that a competitor of Steam would potentially
>label products available through both services in a way that benefits
>them more than Steam?  Amazon benefits by putting a negative spin on
>Steam by calling the authentication portion DRM.  I knew you were
>well-medicated but I really thought you were smart enough to recognize
>that much.

Now you really don't make logical sense.....

Amazon is a retailer in the business of making money on their PC games
distribution. They sell Steam-DRM games from third-party publishers,
just like Valve. They offer both boxed and download services and
document the DRM "as it is"..completely....   Many of their download
games currently have Steam-DRM (with or without another DRM layer).
Any Amazon downloads that have Steam-DRM present do not have a
non-Steam Amazon download-alternative... at least I have not seen one.
So exactly how does the mention of  Steam-DRM benefit an Amazon
download sale over Valve,  if there is no alternative??

The boxed games, OTOH, generally offer just ONE type of DRM, either
that provided by Steam (e.g Skyrim) OR that provided by the retail
distributor (e.g: Uplay, Far Cry 3), no DRM-layering   Amazon  sells
all. Of course, if one buys the retail version without Steam-DRM, one
then might have to download patches from the distributor site (or a
third-party) instead of the 'convenience' of Valve's autopatching -
not so convenient if/when it is involuntarily imposed over a
low-bandwidth Internet connection....

Amazon is quite flexible with their pricing and deals. It makes sense
to buy a Steam-DRM game from Amazon if/when the deal is competitive
with other retailers such as Valve.  About half of my Steam collection
has come from sellers other than Valve, because at the time, "the
price was right", not at all because of any "hatred for Valve".

John Lewis