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Thus spake Rick Cortese <rico...@earthlink.net>, Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:00:55
-0700, Anno Domini:

>Nostromo wrote:
>> Thus spake Rick Cortese <rico...@earthlink.net>, Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:08:22
>> -0700, Anno Domini:
>> 
>>> And what would it take to get you !cynical? Being there myself I see my 
>>> continued participation in MMPOG's as residual obsessive compulsive 
>>> behavior rather then something I enjoy. Can't think of the last time I 
>>> was like giddy happy laughing or couldn't wait until the next time I 
>>> logged in.
>> 
>> What would get me 'cynical'? Mmos like Aion obviously. Or did you mean _not_
>> cynical? LOTRO for one - still playing it with much enthusiasm, CoX will
>
>'! is the NOT operator in C, too arcane a ref.

I knew that, just completely missed it on reading - DOH! ;)

>>> After reading your comments I started asking myself 'what perk would it 
>>> take to get me to even d/l a free to play game?' and all I could come up 
>>> with was breakfast for two at Denny's. Sheesh! I would try online 
>>> tic-tac-toe for a free Grand Slam right now and feel like I was getting 
>>> a great deal. Oh yeah, that's right, the game is supposed to be the 
>>> attraction on its own.
>> 
>> You would think so. Not sure what your point is, other than you're even more
>> cynical & jaded than me perhaps...? I never suggested I wanted some sort of
>> reward or pot of gold outside the games themselves, other than some quality
>> time wasted. A mmo that made me *think*, rather than just Google
>> walkthroughs & wiki guides would make a nice change, which LOTRO did/does a
>> bit of with some quests. The only thing I'm even mildly excited about on the
>> horizon are GW2, STO & maybe SW:TOR (but the last has to get past the
>> Bioware 'consolitis' factor which I doubt it will).  I just signed up for
>> the APB closed beta, but don't ask me why, heh (my mate did it, so call me a
>> silly sheep I guess :).
>> 
>
>Yeap, probably more cynical then you at the moment. I mean I was 
>optimistic "They are going to have to remove this smile from my face 
>when I die with a chisel" kind of happy as we were progressing. Going 
>way back to bbs door games <and forgetting MUDs>: There were games 
>online that you played against human opponents but you were usually not 
>there at the same time. Then came games where the only thing important 
>was who got the BFG 9000 first. Diablo came along and had a party system 
>that allowed for cooperative play and even a chat room. Then came the 
>MMPOG circa 1997 which wasn't perfect but a quantum leap forward that 
>showed promise. Now a dozen years later and it seems like most of the 
>progress has been in 'discovering things to hook people with OCD.' I'd 
>like to see them start having meetings where the developers actually try 
>to put some fun in the games. If I want to make a 1,000 mouse clicks w/o 
>having fun, I don't even need to have my computer on let alone buy a 
>game and pay subscription fees.

LOL, too true! I'd be happy with something that gives me a 'oooh, ahhhh!'
moment every now & then (LOTRO was/is the last game in a while to do this to
me), or as I said, something even semi-cerebral to challenge the grey matter
with, rather than just whack-a-mole OCD crap, as you say.

>Heck, I guess I am a minority customer anyway. Ten million people 
>playing WoW pretty much tells the whole story. It is a good game but I 

Yuppers. I'm almost of a mind that they need to have 2 dev streams for every
mmo - one with a pure story/puzzle/NPC-interaction type path & the other
basically like everything WoW is. <G>

>can't say I ever laughed or giggled while I was playing it or couldn't 
>wait to login the next time because I was missing the fun. Always the 
>same story, got to level, got to get my next level spells, ...

More's the pity...

-- 
Nostromo