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In article <3c2ioi$h...@homer.alpha.net>, jay...@earth.execpc.com (Jim Vieira) wr
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>: >(what about Uw2, you ask...when the Guardian fought his war on Britannian
>: > soil?
>: > No one opened the gate then! Of course, in UW2's endgame, Britannia looks
>: > fine, and no mention of the destruction in u7.5. The Guardian lied.)
>
>: Ummm... U7.5 was _after_ UW2 AFAIK.

See my previos post on this...
>
>I agree.  If I remember correctly UW2 said something about 6 months after
>the destruction of the black gate, but U7.5 said something like 18months
>after, etc.  I don't belive that UW2 is considered 'fodder' for the Ultima
>storyline anymore anyway.
>
>: >(okay, fine, you say...But Britannia WAS destroyed by the end of U8!
>
>This is my opinion also.  Some have said the endgame of U8 was the Avatar
>in the Guardian's homeworld.  I don't buy it (unless someone from Origin
>says I'm flat wrong).

According to the hint book (don't need 'em, just like to read it) it IS the
Guardian's homeworld. Of course, despite this, I still think it is Britannia.

> All thru Pagan the Guardian is saying 'I can hear
>Lord British crying out for you now' and other taunts.  I took the endgame
>of U8 to mean:  Avatar gets ultimate power.  Goes to the 'Etheral Plane'
>or Hall of Pillars as refered to below.  Realizes his power and decides to
>finally return to Britannia.  Remember:  The storyline said that the only
>way home was to get the power of the Titans and to become yourself a
>Titan.  So he goes home in his nice new Avatar outfit!
>
>I'm also basing this on the fact that an article I read last year with
>Richard Garriot said that Pagan would take place on the Guardian's
>homeworld, and that Ultima 9 would be kinda like Ultima 4 again, with
>the Avatar learning to handle his new powers, and to actually become
>some kinda god (hence the name Ultima 9 - Ascension).  I think therefore
>that the endgame of U8 was showing destroyed Britannia.  Of course, this
>could all be old news that has been changed 1000 times already.
>
>: >Yeah, but we don't know how long the Avatar wandered about in the Hall of
>: >Pillars; possibly enough time for the Guardian to get through and destroy
>: >Britannia. Besides, Britannia had already suffered cataclysm during U7.5)
>: >(Finally, What about Pagan? Perhaps that world was worthless, drained to
>: >the Guardian; no loss to him if the few survivors no longer worship him).
>
>: I would be surprised if the guardian actually destroys somewhere
>: physically. Perhaps he will go so far as to eliminate all those who
>: oppose him (such as those you saw in the ice world and in Praector
>: Loth's tomb in UW2).
>
>: Wouldn't it be more satisfying for the guardian to subvert the
>: principles of a world and bring the Avatar into a Britannia that
>: despises him?  Hmmm... this actually could tie in quite well with the
>: fellowship in U7.
>
>An interesting note!  He never actually did destroy all of Pagan either.
>Just decided to subjugate the people to his will and his rule.  But I
>feel that Britannia was different.  The Guradian originally wanted to
>control Britannia thru the Fellowship.  He got his ass kicked out by
>the Avatar, and decided the best way to get back at the Avatar was to
>temporarily put him 'out of the way' (Serpent Isle/Pagan) while he
>wreaks complete havoc.  I also think the Guardian KNEW that the Avatar
>would become all powerful, and would return to Britannia of his own
>power.  So, he wastes it all ahead of time to get his revenge.
>
>: Alistair
>: --
>: Email A.D....@bradford.ac.uk
>
>--
>                                               Jim Vieira
>                                               jay...@earth.execpc.com
>
>
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