🚀 go-pugleaf

> I am beginning ARCANUM.  tis it looks like a near-relative, of these
> old games, maybe close.

Arcanum has lots of character developement options...but the difference
between them is mostly combat related and that part of the game isn't all
that fun.
I didn't really like the game. the game mechanics were too obvious and
intrusive, especially in the conversations. ("perhaps I could PERSUADE you
otherwise?" "I believe I have the INTELLIGENCE to understand this"
ARRRRRGGHHH!) not to mention the huge balance problems...it's one of the few
games where you can become literally invincible.

> so people....what rpgs are the deepest, most complicated?
> perhaps..."WERE" would be a better adjective!!

I have to agree with the others, it's mostly nostalgia. I'd say dungeon
master 1 is a game to try though. It's the best dungeon crawl I have ever
seen...also I don't remember any recent games who really did puzzles right.
It might be a refreshing experience. it also has excellent graphics for its
time(or at least the amiga version does. WinUAE is a great emulator.) not
like the older ultimas who are unplayable for some people(me at the very
least :)