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Replying to frees...@yahoo.com (freestone wilson) :

>hi all.
>
>what is the deepest, rpg?
>---  or even the most complicated or involved?!

I, personally, liked some of SSI's earlier games, e.g. Curse of the
Azure Bonds, but I'd lie if I said they were terribly complex or deep.

I know people are fed up with me harping on about it, but the only
truly great crpg was Planescape: Torment. It's from '98 or '99. 
Nothing else comes even close IMO, although I know many would say that
Fallout I & II, and perhaps even Baldurs Gate I & II, are on par.

> Anthony E. Strozyk , in his remenising about old rpgs, wrote about
>"the good old days".   the old rpgs when "games were Games", a few
>days ago.!

Nostalgia talking. 
Sword of Fargoal, Hack, and Temple of Apshai were all great fun, but
they weren't deep.

>but what ARE they?   what games were like this, or
>maybe...[hope...hope...]
>or maybe, what games are like this today?

Few games ever were. The old ones sometimes had charm, but usually had
the depth of a birdbath and the complexity of a bar of soap.

>I am beginning ARCANUM.  tis it looks like a near-relative, of these
>old games, maybe close.

Well, to each his own, I guess.

Actually, and this group is going to hate me now, but if you want
emotional power and depth, you may want to look outside the RPG genre.
The RPG's are very fixed-form, one might even say stuck in a rut, and
at least I personally get a more rewarding role playing experience
from some first person shooters, such as Deus Ex, Thief, and Half
Life.

There are also all those weird japanese rpg's. I'm told they're very
deep and complex, but I usually just find them silly.

>freestone