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Re: Origin - CD-only forever!

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From: doc... John Sabean
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 18:21
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In article <matuseCy...@netcom.com>, mat...@netcom.com (Matuse) writes:
>In article <BiwUCBj...@delphi.com> Lee Lorenz <llo...@delphi.com> writes:
>>John Sabean <doc...@eng.umd.edu> writes:
>> 
>>>Its sort of silly from a user standpoint, seeing as the game is only 13 megs
>>>in size. It doesn't NEED to be CD-only yet it is now. Seeing as there are only a few
>> 
>>>From their point of view, there is a *HUGE* base of CDROM users out there,
>>besides, CDROM's are only a buck or two, vs. two or three times that much
>>for a diskette version. Remember, economics and marketing drives them, not
>>the needs of users afraid to bring their systems out of the stone age. It
>>wasn't long ago when the big deal was 5.25" disks, before that it was C=64,
>>before that, Apple][. Obscelesence (sp?) is a fact of life, but I've had my
>>CDROM for two years now. I would rather buy a game *DESIGNED* for CDROM, with
>>the massive storage, than load 37meg onto my hard drive, or buy an "enhanced"
>>CDROM game quickly ported from diskette to CDROM.
>
>Well firstly, most CD-Roms are bought by businesses and schools for 
>work/learning purposes, and you can be pretty sure that they won't be 
>investing in a lot of origin games.
>
>I'm sure Origin did their research on how many CD games were bought, and 
>thats how they justify it, but for those of us who don't have a couple 
>hundred dollars to throw around to "bring their systems out of the stone age"
>we are left way out in the cold.
>
>And its not like whole realms of amazing things open up with CDs, yes 
>they store a lot of info, and yes they may be cheap to build, but they 
>can't really do anything that a normal hard drive can't, they might just 
>do it a little more efficiently/faster, this hardly justifies removing an 
>entire product line.

The thing is, they may be space efficient, but they most certainly are
not faster. If you're playing back video/audio, they're just fine...
If you're doing random access, you've got problems. The CD playable
version of Armada requires 8 megs of memory rather than 4 because it
needs to do so much caching.....

I loaded it on my hard drive, I wouldn't play it off the CD. Even
double speed CDs are ridiculously slow for normal random access. Its
to be expected, they're designed for straight linear access.

In my opinion, a good CD game installs all random access stuff that is used
alot on the hard drive and keeps all full screen animations, long digitized
speech, etc... on the CD. Origin, to date, hasn't been doing this.

CD games have their place and are quite entertaining, but the philosophy
that EVERYTHING belongs on CD ROM and should always be played off the CD
is ill-conceived.
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From: doc...@eng.umd.edu (John Sabean)
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Subject: Re: Origin - CD-only forever!
Date: 25 Oct 1994 18:21:37 GMT
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