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"LRW" <deja@celticbear.com> schreef in bericht
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> So, what's some recommended RPG's out there? Say, last 5 years?
> I'm looking for something like "Morrowind" but maybe a little more
> traditional pseudo-Medieval/D&D-esque.
> Or, hardcore sci-fi.
>
> Something expansive and diverse.
> Any suggestions?


gothic I & II

arx fatalis maybe


check out www.gamefaqs.com PC RPG section as well

In article <3a1d1813.0311061317.17ae8699@posting.google.com>, 
deja@celticbear.com says...
> So, what's some recommended RPG's out there? Say, last 5 years?
> I'm looking for something like "Morrowind" but maybe a little more
> traditional pseudo-Medieval/D&D-esque.
> Or, hardcore sci-fi.
> 
> Something expansive and diverse.
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks!
> Liam
> druid-at-celticbear-dot-com
> 

Man, Gothic 2 would be perfect for you then.  Widely
available in stores now.  You should also pick up
the original Gothic, which you can find at budget prices
in stores like Circuit City or Best Buy.

> Or, hardcore sci-fi.

Deus Ex or System Shock 2?

// Hermann

tritone <elkston@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> Man, Gothic 2 would be perfect for you then.  Widely
> available in stores now.  You should also pick up
> the original Gothic, which you can find at budget prices
> in stores like Circuit City or Best Buy.


I found the Gothic II web site, and I'm interested! But man, I can't
find any reviews on it. Nothing at Amazon, no used copies to sell on
eBay....
I haven't gone to see if BestBuy or GameStop has it in stock, but at
least it's on their Web sites.
What amazes me, is I can find even less regarding the original
"Gothic". Nothing. Anywhere.
Since my good video card went kaput, and I'm forced to use a
voodoo3000 for now, I was hoping I might be able to get a copy of the
original, assuming its video requirements are less than 32MB true 3D
rendering.

Thanks for the suggestion!
Liam

Everyone is going to mention the classics like
Gothic and stuff...  so I'll recommend that highly
overlooked RPG : Anachronox

Moa Dragon

deja@celticbear.com (LRW) wrote in news:3a1d1813.0311070700.522570d9
@posting.google.com:

> Since my good video card went kaput, and I'm forced to use a
> voodoo3000 for now, I was hoping I might be able to get a copy of the
> original, assuming its video requirements are less than 32MB true 3D
> rendering.

That video card is going to limit your choices of RPGs that will run well 
quite considerably. I would suggest the Baldur's Gate series as a good 
starting point. Also if you've never played it, Planescape: Torment, 
while not your typical fantasy setting, is superbly written and one of 
the best RPGs.

-- 
Knight37

LRW wrote:
> 
> So, what's some recommended RPG's out there? Say, last 5 years?
> I'm looking for something like "Morrowind" but maybe a little more
> traditional pseudo-Medieval/D&D-esque.
> Or, hardcore sci-fi.
> 
> Something expansive and diverse.
> Any suggestions?

Fallout 1 and 2
Planescape Torment
Baldur's Gate 1 and 2
Icewind Dale
Temple of Elemental Evil
Gothic 1 and 2
Neverwinter Nights w/ SoU

I was enjoying a good book in bogf3s$1e2$1@news.tiscali.fr,
 when Mils Michael <mickmils@hotmail.com> stumbled in shouting while
inebriated
> Anachronox

I'm enjoying it a good deal at the moment.  I'm still on Anachronox the
planet and it's a little tedious looking for things to photograph.  I also
am not that great of a fan of continuous turn-based combat but overall i
like the game.  It's great seeing a PC specific game done in the console
style.


-- 
best regards, mattchu
np: Carrigan - Can You Surf in America?

"I'm no food Nazi." -Bobo BonoboŽ

On 7 Nov 2003 07:00:53 -0800, deja@celticbear.com (LRW) wrote:

>tritone <elkston@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
>> Man, Gothic 2 would be perfect for you then.  Widely
>> available in stores now.  You should also pick up
>> the original Gothic, which you can find at budget prices
>> in stores like Circuit City or Best Buy.
>
>
>I found the Gothic II web site, and I'm interested! But man, I can't
>find any reviews on it. Nothing at Amazon, no used copies to sell on
>eBay....
>I haven't gone to see if BestBuy or GameStop has it in stock, but at
>least it's on their Web sites.
>What amazes me, is I can find even less regarding the original
>"Gothic". Nothing. Anywhere.
>Since my good video card went kaput, and I'm forced to use a
>voodoo3000 for now, I was hoping I might be able to get a copy of the
>original, assuming its video requirements are less than 32MB true 3D
>rendering.

Good heavens, man, you can get a replacement video card for less than the
cost of a game these days. It would seem to make a lot more sense to me, if
you got a new card and THEN asked what games are out there.


-- 
Hong Ooi                              | "Does *anyone* at WOTC bother to
hong@zipworld.com.au                  |  _think_ when making housecat stats?"
http://www.zipworld.com.au/~hong/dnd/ |    -- MSB
Sydney, Australia                     |

deja@celticbear.com (LRW) wrote in message news:<3a1d1813.0311061317.17ae8699@posting.google.com>...

> So, what's some recommended RPG's out there? Say, last 5 years?
> I'm looking for something like "Morrowind" but maybe a little more
> traditional pseudo-Medieval/D&D-esque.

You want Gothic 2. A somewhat similar but much better game than
Morrowind. Gothic 1 is said to be good too, but suffers from so poor
controls I haven't been able to stomach playing it.
Traditional (extremely so) but not similar to Morrowind are Baldurs
Gate 2. I can't recommend BG1 - I hated that dreary slugfest with its
infinite numbers of infinitely dull random encounters. There's also
Temple of Elemental Evil, which is a faithful (but buggy) recreation
of an early eighties pen-and-paper RPG dungeoncrawl, so if that's your
thing...
 
Far less traditional is Planescape: Torment, which simply is the best
cRPG ever made, but if you're an experienced cRPG'er it takes some
getting used to e.g. that there's no point in powergaming, and that
points are better spent on WIS, CHA and INT than on STR and DEX.

> Or, hardcore sci-fi.

Non-fantasy RPG's are, unfortunately, few and far between. Fallout 2
is a post-apocalyptic game, and quite decent.

deja@celticbear.com (LRW) wrote in message news:<3a1d1813.0311070700.522570d9@posting.google.com>...

> I found the Gothic II web site, and I'm interested! But man, I can't
> find any reviews on it. Nothing at Amazon, no used copies to sell on
> eBay....
> I haven't gone to see if BestBuy or GameStop has it in stock, but at
> least it's on their Web sites.
> What amazes me, is I can find even less regarding the original
> "Gothic". Nothing. Anywhere.

That's because it's made by a German company, and has for that reason
been treated by the US sites/press in a very "redheaded stepchild"
fashion.

> Since my good video card went kaput, and I'm forced to use a
> voodoo3000

Ooohhkayyy.... No, don't even think about playing Gothic on that, it's
a Morrowind-like game, and a voodoo card simply wont have the
traction. I'd recommend a Geforce4 Ti 4200, they're quite capable and
reasonably priced. Avoid all Geforce cards with an MX anywhere in the
name, though.

With that card, you might want to have a look at Baldurs Gate 2 and/or
Planescape Torment instead.

mike_noren2002@yahoo.co.uk (Mean_Chlorine) looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
say:
>deja@celticbear.com (LRW) wrote in message news:<3a1d1813.0311070700.522570d9@posting.google.com>...
<snippety>
>> Since my good video card went kaput, and I'm forced to use a
>> voodoo3000
>
>Ooohhkayyy.... No, don't even think about playing Gothic on that, it's
>a Morrowind-like game, and a voodoo card simply wont have the
>traction. I'd recommend a Geforce4 Ti 4200, they're quite capable and
>reasonably priced. Avoid all Geforce cards with an MX anywhere in the
>name, though.

His card might not be able to run Gothic 2, but it will run Gothic just
fine.
I played Gothic originally with a Voodoo3 2000 and the only thing I had
to disable was the sky effects (those would make it slideshow).

Xocyll
-- 
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

"Hong Ooi" <hong@zipworld.com.au> wrote in message
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> On 7 Nov 2003 07:00:53 -0800, deja@celticbear.com (LRW) wrote:
> Good heavens, man, you can get a replacement video card for less than the
> cost of a game these days. It would seem to make a lot more sense to me,
if
> you got a new card and THEN asked what games are out there.

Well, I COULD spend $50 on some crappy MX card or something, or I can wait
until I can spend $150 for a Radeon 9600 Pro that is made of DX9 games and
should last me some time. A $50 already won't run some of the newer games.
Thanks for the suggestion, though.

"Mean_Chlorine" <mike_noren2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> deja@celticbear.com (LRW) wrote in message
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> > Since my good video card went kaput, and I'm forced to use a
> > voodoo3000
>
> Ooohhkayyy.... No, don't even think about playing Gothic on that, it's
> a Morrowind-like game, and a voodoo card simply wont have the
> traction. I'd recommend a Geforce4 Ti 4200, they're quite capable and
> reasonably priced. Avoid all Geforce cards with an MX anywhere in the
> name, though.
>
> With that card, you might want to have a look at Baldurs Gate 2 and/or
> Planescape Torment instead.

Thanks for the info. I was hoping I might be able to run Gothic I.
I was thinking of spending only a little bit more and getting a Radeon 9600
Pro. It's a generation better than the Ti4200 (which is a good card in its
own right!) and will last me for another generation of games for only $50
more.
Yeah, I knew about the MX. =)

I have a copy of Torment somewhere...never really gave it a try since the
Planescape millieu's not really my thing...but I have seen some really good
revies on it.
Think I'll give it a try.

Thanks!!
Liam

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> mike_noren2002@yahoo.co.uk (Mean_Chlorine) looked up from reading the
> entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
> say:

>
> His card might not be able to run Gothic 2, but it will run Gothic just
> fine.
> I played Gothic originally with a Voodoo3 2000 and the only thing I had
> to disable was the sky effects (those would make it slideshow).
>

Cool, thanks!
It looks like I might be able to find a used "Gothic" through Amazon's used
stuff section.
Thanks!!