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Started by Dom Robinson
Thu, 04 Sep 2003 23:48
Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: Dom Robinson
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 23:48
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 23:48
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It's not officially out until Sept 19th so I'm not expecting everyone to have played this yet, but I was wondering if anyone could answer the question as to why I'm getting jerkiness once per second? I have a Cybercom 1571PC with P4 2.66Ghz, 512Mb RAM, 128Mb GeForce4 MX440 graphics, WinXP, and have even set the graphics elements to low detail but still this is happening. Is it just badly programmed in that case or is the graphics card just not up to the job? It's very graphically intensive, that's for sure. I previously used a PC with a similar spec, but a 128Mb ATI Radeon 9600TX graphics card, but the s-video output blew big chunks, but would that have been able to handle this game? TIA, -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 940 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news /* star trek nemesis, bringing down the house, phone booth, human nature "Those who say they can, can, while those who say they can't, are right."
Re: Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: TomG
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:56
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:56
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almost sounds like something else is running in the background hogging cpu
cycles to me. have you disabled all of the other running software and even
AV software as a test?
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"Dom Robinson" <murphyisamuppet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.19c1dfbb54b974bc9896aa@news.cis.dfn.de...
> It's not officially out until Sept 19th so I'm not expecting everyone to
have
> played this yet, but I was wondering if anyone could answer the question
as to
> why I'm getting jerkiness once per second?
>
> I have a Cybercom 1571PC with P4 2.66Ghz, 512Mb RAM, 128Mb GeForce4 MX440
> graphics, WinXP, and have even set the graphics elements to low detail but
> still this is happening. Is it just badly programmed in that case or is
the
> graphics card just not up to the job? It's very graphically intensive,
that's
> for sure.
>
> I previously used a PC with a similar spec, but a 128Mb ATI Radeon 9600TX
> graphics card, but the s-video output blew big chunks, but would that have
> been able to handle this game?
>
> TIA,
> --
>
> Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot
uk
> /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor)
> /* 940 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs &
news
> /* star trek nemesis, bringing down the house, phone booth, human nature
> "Those who say they can, can, while those who say they can't, are
right."
Re: Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: Blaedmon
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 02:46
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Its always amusing to see posts like a game running badly on someones Pc and them asking 'is it badly programmed?' or something ;) TRON2.0 is a msterpiece - I think they've done a great job of capturing the Tron universe in it. As for what could make it play average on your Pc, I guess there could be a number of reasons - firstly I would say your graphics card. MX440? I'm not sure, but check the games min system requirements - perhaps it needs something a little faster, although with low details turned on it'd suggest something other. Another thing to check for is remove ALL background programs running. Any antivirus stuff is always a cpu-cycle hog, etc. Check your cards functions - do you have AntiAliasing on full or something? Also defrag, you never know - another thing could be your memory. Some games rely on memory much much more than others, and an example of this is C&C Generals. If you have average ram, the game will crash - yet you will have no problems whatsoever on other games. Lastly, remove all nvidia drivers using NastyFileRemover (from 3dguru/guru3d.com) and reinstall the 44.03's. This is just a troubleshooting method. Worth a try. Let us know how u go. "Dom Robinson" <murphyisamuppet@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.19c1dfbb54b974bc9896aa@news.cis.dfn.de... > It's not officially out until Sept 19th so I'm not expecting everyone to have > played this yet, but I was wondering if anyone could answer the question as to > why I'm getting jerkiness once per second? > > I have a Cybercom 1571PC with P4 2.66Ghz, 512Mb RAM, 128Mb GeForce4 MX440 > graphics, WinXP, and have even set the graphics elements to low detail but > still this is happening. Is it just badly programmed in that case or is the > graphics card just not up to the job? It's very graphically intensive, that's > for sure. > > I previously used a PC with a similar spec, but a 128Mb ATI Radeon 9600TX > graphics card, but the s-video output blew big chunks, but would that have > been able to handle this game? > > TIA, > -- > > Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk > /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) > /* 940 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news > /* star trek nemesis, bringing down the house, phone booth, human nature > "Those who say they can, can, while those who say they can't, are right."
Re: Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: Mangyrat
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 03:56
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 03:56
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ill never understand why some one buys a P4 2.66Ghz, 512Mb RAM, and puts a low end video card like the gf 4 mx 440 in it. -- If life is a bitch then live it like she is drunk and naked. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com "Dom Robinson" <murphyisamuppet@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.19c1dfbb54b974bc9896aa@news.cis.dfn.de... > It's not officially out until Sept 19th so I'm not expecting everyone to have > played this yet, but I was wondering if anyone could answer the question as to > why I'm getting jerkiness once per second? > > I have a Cybercom 1571PC with P4 2.66Ghz, 512Mb RAM, 128Mb GeForce4 MX440 > graphics, WinXP, and have even set the graphics elements to low detail but > still this is happening. Is it just badly programmed in that case or is the > graphics card just not up to the job? It's very graphically intensive, that's > for sure. > > I previously used a PC with a similar spec, but a 128Mb ATI Radeon 9600TX > graphics card, but the s-video output blew big chunks, but would that have > been able to handle this game? > > TIA, > -- > > Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk > /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) > /* 940 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news > /* star trek nemesis, bringing down the house, phone booth, human nature > "Those who say they can, can, while those who say they can't, are right."
Re: Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: Athura
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 03:59
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 03:59
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its your video card, gf4 MXs are basic/budget cards
Re: Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: Helion
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 04:09
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Anytime someone hear has a problem and see's it a MX card they always assume its a video problem..... I have the GF4/MMX440 and it runs Tron 2, IL2 Forgotten Battles, Unreal 2003, BF1942, MOHAA, NOLF2, C&C Generals and many others at high video settings with no problems whatsoever. (30fps+). The MX440 is was originally rated at 270 core/ 400 memory with bandwidth of 6.4GB/sec. It sucks at AA/AF but so does most of the non-FX nvidia cards. problem lays somewhere else, IE spyware, old drivers, etc... Even my Celeron 900 with this same card was more rthan sufficient. "Athura" <Athura@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bj91m0$jia$1@lust.ihug.co.nz... > its your video card, gf4 MXs are basic/budget cards > >
Re: Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: Dom Robinson
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 08:09
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 08:09
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In article <bj91lh$gkn$1@news3.infoave.net>, rat@mangyrat.com says... > ill never understand why some one buys a P4 2.66Ghz, 512Mb RAM, and puts a > low end video card like the gf 4 mx 440 in it. > I didn't. That's the one it came with, but while the same thing with the ATI card was Ł799, this was Ł598 from Staples (sold out now). It also doesn't have the TV card but I've never had serious need for one of those. -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 940 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news /* star trek nemesis, bringing down the house, phone booth, human nature "Those who say they can, can, while those who say they can't, are right."
Re: Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: johndevoy
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:32
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:32
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They use a double render technique to get the glows, the MX will be seriously crippled on fill rates.
Re: Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: Dom Robinson
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:32
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:32
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In article <80U5b.1127$sd5.106229@twister.columbus.rr.com>, removehelionsrankin@insight.rr.com says... > Anytime someone hear has a problem and see's it a MX card they always assume > its a video problem..... I have the GF4/MMX440 and it runs Tron 2 > I'll try the game again later tonight. Can I ask what settings you have Tron 2 set to? Ta. -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 940 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news /* star trek nemesis, bringing down the house, phone booth, human nature "Those who say they can, can, while those who say they can't, are right."
Re: Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: Dave
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:03
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:03
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"Dom Robinson" <murphyisamuppet@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.19c1dfbb54b974bc9896aa@news.cis.dfn.de... > It's not officially out until Sept 19th so I'm not expecting everyone to have > played this yet, but I was wondering if anyone could answer the question as to > why I'm getting jerkiness once per second? > > I have a Cybercom 1571PC with P4 2.66Ghz, 512Mb RAM, 128Mb GeForce4 MX440 > graphics, WinXP, and have even set the graphics elements to low detail but > still this is happening. Is it just badly programmed in that case or is the > graphics card just not up to the job? It's very graphically intensive, that's > for sure. > > I previously used a PC with a similar spec, but a 128Mb ATI Radeon 9600TX > graphics card, but the s-video output blew big chunks, but would that have > been able to handle this game? > > TIA, Actually it came out Aug 26th. In the US at least. It runs great on my AMD XP2200+ and GF3 Ti200 at 1280 X 960 and everything set to high. check to see if you have AA or AF enabled or if there are other programs running in the background. The game really is beautiful and fun but it is too short and the multiplayer sucks.
Re: Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: Paul Woodsford
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:45
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:45
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The Demo Plays perfectly on my system, with my ADSL connection live, AVG & ZA free running as well as Weather Watch, System XP Home SP1, Gigabyte GA-81DX Intel 845 AGPset P4 1700Hz 640 SDram 40 G Western Digital HD 20 G OEM WD HD RealTek Ethernet card connected to 4 port Netgear DS104 Hub US Robotics SporsterFlash Modem Thomson Speedtouch 330 USB Modem CD/DVD player CD/CDr/CDrw SoundBlaster Live Card Geforce 4 MX460 64MBram Graphics 17" Samsung SyncMaster 753 DFX monitor USB Canoscan Scanner USB Canon S300 Printer I think there must be something up with your system! -- Paul Woodsford Remove ****NOSPAMPLEASE**** to Reply "Dom Robinson" <murphyisamuppet@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.19c1dfbb54b974bc9896aa@news.cis.dfn.de... > It's not officially out until Sept 19th so I'm not expecting everyone to have > played this yet, but I was wondering if anyone could answer the question as to > why I'm getting jerkiness once per second? > > I have a Cybercom 1571PC with P4 2.66Ghz, 512Mb RAM, 128Mb GeForce4 MX440 > graphics, WinXP, and have even set the graphics elements to low detail but > still this is happening. Is it just badly programmed in that case or is the > graphics card just not up to the job? It's very graphically intensive, that's > for sure. > > I previously used a PC with a similar spec, but a 128Mb ATI Radeon 9600TX > graphics card, but the s-video output blew big chunks, but would that have > been able to handle this game? > > TIA, > -- > > Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk > /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) > /* 940 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news > /* star trek nemesis, bringing down the house, phone booth, human nature > "Those who say they can, can, while those who say they can't, are right." --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003
Re: Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: Dom Robinson
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:47
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:47
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In article <0bR5b.21304$j26.18589@lakeread02>, tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net says... > almost sounds like something else is running in the background hogging cpu > cycles to me. have you disabled all of the other running software and even > AV software as a test? > Just tried shutting a few things down, pared down some more of the graphics options and got it running fine (Norton AV 2003 still running though). Then I upped the graphics options bit by bit up to full strength and then it still worked fine. Then I got blasted to death, several times over, by some green blokes. I'll try and find out what's going on first before I play it again though. There's no manual accompanying it for me to RTFM with :) -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 940 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news /* star trek nemesis, bringing down the house, phone booth, human nature "Those who say they can, can, while those who say they can't, are right."
Re: Tron 2.0 - jerky behaviour
Author: Dom Robinson
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:47
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:47
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In article <0bR5b.21304$j26.18589@lakeread02>, tgeery-NOSPAM-@cox.net says... > almost sounds like something else is running in the background hogging cpu > cycles to me. have you disabled all of the other running software and even > AV software as a test? > Just tried shutting a few things down, pared down some more of the graphics options and got it running fine (Norton AV 2003 still running though). Then I upped the graphics options bit by bit up to full strength and then it still worked fine. Then I got blasted to death, several times over, by some green blokes. I'll try and find out what's going on first before I play it again though. There's no manual accompanying it for me to RTFM with :) Forgot to add, ta for all the input on this one. -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 940 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news /* star trek nemesis, bringing down the house, phone booth, human nature "Those who say they can, can, while those who say they can't, are right."
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