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sha...@inter.com (Steve Shannon) writes:
>Might & Magic: Clouds of Xeen	      IBM	                 Now	            
>$69.95

This is about $20-$35 more than what it sells for in many local stores.
I'd love to save money by cutting out the middleman, but factory-direct
ordering always seems to cost much more (almost twice as much in this case).
This seems to be true of all companies, not just New World.  Anyone know why?
Are they afraid of offending their retailers if they offer competative 
prices?

Dave

sha...@inter.com (Steve Shannon) writes:
>Please excuse multiple postings in the comp.sys.ibm.pc.games newsgroups!

NO!!!!!

>Title	                              Computer/Type	       Availability	    
>Price
>More Vegas Games	                   Windows	             June	           
>$29.95
>Might & Magic: Darkside of Xeen	    IBM	                 Now	            
>$69.95
>Might & Magic: Clouds of Xeen	      IBM	                 Now	            
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>::  Steve Shannon  ::  New World Computing, Inc.  :: sha...@inter.com  ::
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>:: AOL-Intercomm :: AppleLink-D1933 :: CIS-71154,430 :: GEnie-Intercomm ::
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>::       A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance       ::
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Well, Since you can't even format the message properly and don't know how to
post to multiple newsgroups correctly, (and your prices are higher than
I can get at a local mall store) I don't think I will be doing any business
with your company.
--
Randy Buckland                               "It's hard to work
North Carolina State University               in a group when you're
randy_b...@ncsu.edu (919) 515-5491        omnipotent"       -- Q

In article <C7Jo7...@news.cso.uiuc.edu> be...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (David Bell) writes:
>sha...@inter.com (Steve Shannon) writes:
>>Might & Magic: Clouds of Xeen	      IBM	                 
>>$69.95
>
>This is about $20-$35 more than what it sells for in many local stores.
>I'd love to save money by cutting out the middleman, but factory-direct
>ordering always seems to cost much more (almost twice as much in this case).
>This seems to be true of all companies, not just New World.  Anyone know why?
>Are they afraid of offending their retailers if they offer competative 
>prices?

Bingo.  That's precisely right.  If you were a retailer, would you sell
products of a company that undercut you?
-- 
ted frank                 | "Absolutely.  I would've been glad to pull the
th...@kimbark.uchicago.edu |  switch myself." -- Harvard Law professor Charles
the u of c law school     |  Fried, on whether due process was served in
standard disclaimers      |  Coleman v Virginia. 

In article <C7Jo7...@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, be...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (David
Bell) wrote:
> 
> sha...@inter.com (Steve Shannon) writes:
> >Might & Magic: Clouds of Xeen	      IBM	                 Now	            
> >$69.95
> 
> This is about $20-$35 more than what it sells for in many local stores.
> I'd love to save money by cutting out the middleman, but factory-direct
> ordering always seems to cost much more (almost twice as much in this case).
> This seems to be true of all companies, not just New World.  Anyone know why?
> Are they afraid of offending their retailers if they offer competative 
> prices?

Actually, we sell the games for 10% off when you call direct.  You also get
a nifty t-shirt for orders over $50.

Darkside of Xeen just shipped last week and you could order direct from us
and get it weeks before your nearest dealer or mail order company.

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::  Steve Shannon  ::  New World Computing, Inc.  :: sha...@inter.com  ::
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:: AOL-Intercomm :: AppleLink-D1933 :: CIS-71154,430 :: GEnie-Intercomm ::
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::       A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance       ::
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I hope New World Computing fires this marketing guy, because using the net
for commerical advertisement is a serious violation.

Beside, why anyone would pay full MSRP for old games (e.g Xeen at 69.95)
is beyond me.

--
Nai-Chi

In article <shannon-25...@intercom.com> sha...@inter.com (Steve Shannon) writes:
>In article <C7Jo7...@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, be...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (David
>Bell) wrote:
>> 
>> sha...@inter.com (Steve Shannon) writes:
>> >Might & Magic: Clouds of Xeen	      IBM	                 Now	            
>> >$69.95
>
>Actually, we sell the games for 10% off when you call direct.  You also get
>a nifty t-shirt for orders over $50.
>
>Darkside of Xeen just shipped last week and you could order direct from us
>and get it weeks before your nearest dealer or mail order company.
>
	Geesh, $70 is already 10% off?  What about the ethics of not
selling as a business on the net?  Actually, I don't mind all those guys
selling hard drives cheaper than I can find anywhere in town.  But really,
your price is the highest anyone out of their right mind would pay for the
game.  You know, if there was a special "net" price, I don't think anyone
would mind your unethical practice.  I will probably end up getting the
game but not if I have to pay the ridiculous price of $70 for it.

Alan

In article <1993May26.0...@fcom.cc.utah.edu>, acw...@u.cc.utah.edu
(Alan Carl Wong) wrote:
> 	Geesh, $70 is already 10% off?  What about the ethics of not
> selling as a business on the net?  Actually, I don't mind all those guys
> selling hard drives cheaper than I can find anywhere in town.  But really,
> your price is the highest anyone out of their right mind would pay for the
> game.  You know, if there was a special "net" price, I don't think anyone
> would mind your unethical practice.  I will probably end up getting the
> game but not if I have to pay the ridiculous price of $70 for it.

Take 10% off, do the math...It's like $62.00

FYI, this information was posted to help overseas callers who have great
difficulties obtaining games made in the US.

I'm not saying that they cannot find them overseas BUT they sometimes have
to pay up to $200.00 for a game that retails for $69.00 here in the states.

For whoever cares, I'm not a marketing person.

Furthermore, we got this internet account because of the high customer
demand that we have a presence on the gaming news groups.  Ask yourself
this question: Do you want big game companies on the net?  It's been
nothing more than hostile since I logged on this week.  Do you people have
nothing better to do than to flame me for a newbie mistake or is it the
only way you can self masturbate yourself, by publicly or privately bashing
me when you're right and I'm wrong?

Thanks for the wonderful welcome to the world-wide internet...Really.

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In article <shannon-26...@intercom.com>, sha...@inter.com (Steve Shannon) writes...
>In article <1993May26.0...@fcom.cc.utah.edu>, acw...@u.cc.utah.edu
>(Alan Carl Wong) wrote:
>> 	Geesh, $70 is already 10% off?  What about the ethics of not
>> selling as a business on the net?  Actually, I don't mind all those guys
>> selling hard drives cheaper than I can find anywhere in town.  But really,
>> your price is the highest anyone out of their right mind would pay for the
>> game.  You know, if there was a special "net" price, I don't think anyone
>> would mind your unethical practice.  I will probably end up getting the
>> game but not if I have to pay the ridiculous price of $70 for it.
> 
>Take 10% off, do the math...It's like $62.00
> 
>FYI, this information was posted to help overseas callers who have great
>difficulties obtaining games made in the US.

that wasn't how it was presented.

> 
>I'm not saying that they cannot find them overseas BUT they sometimes have
>to pay up to $200.00 for a game that retails for $69.00 here in the states.
> 
>For whoever cares, I'm not a marketing person.

you presented a post that marketed a service. the post is in question, not
your job title.

> 
>Furthermore, we got this internet account because of the high customer
>demand that we have a presence on the gaming news groups.  Ask yourself
>this question: Do you want big game companies on the net?  It's been
>nothing more than hostile since I logged on this week.  Do you people have
>nothing better to do than to flame me for a newbie mistake or is it the
>only way you can self masturbate yourself, by publicly or privately bashing
>me when you're right and I'm wrong?
> 

i've done work for electronic arts. i don't come on here asking people to buy
my game or any of ea's stuff. (of course it isn't quite released yet, but
that's an entirely different subject.... :) ). as for newbie mistakes, that's
why there is a faq. read it. watch for a while. jumping in as a newbie is a
common usenet mistake. it's also no defense. 

usenet can be a cold place. all we get to see are your words. no facial
expression, no intonation, no other clues. smilies and other usenet phrases
have been invented to help alleviate this. but what you get judged on is 
words. and everyone interprets them differently. 

also, since people's responses are directed at a glass screen, they can
generally be more caustic than those delivered in person. one needs a thick
skin on this medium. on any given day your post might be read by several
hundred thousand people. you can say something as simple as 'hi' and piss off
17 of them. ignore it. if you feel feisty, then flame back. 

>Thanks for the wonderful welcome to the world-wide internet...Really.

it's an old pattern. but for what it's worth, welcome to it. :)

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In article <1993May24....@midway.uchicago.edu> th...@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <C7Jo7...@news.cso.uiuc.edu> be...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (David Bell) writes:
>>
>>This is about $20-$35 more than what it sells for in many local stores.
>>I'd love to save money by cutting out the middleman, but factory-direct
>>ordering always seems to cost much more (almost twice as much in this case).
>>This seems to be true of all companies, not just New World.  Anyone know why?
>>Are they afraid of offending their retailers if they offer competative 
>>prices?
>
>Bingo.  That's precisely right.  If you were a retailer, would you sell
>products of a company that undercut you?
>-- 

Usually the deal with distributors is that the factory will not undercut
a particular price ("retail" though retailrs can and often DO discount).
This extends to most distribution arrangements, not just software, for
the obvious reasons (why advertise and display a product to consumers if
they can say "That looks great!" and buy it from the factory for less?)

>ted frank                 | "Absolutely.  I would've been glad to pull the
>th...@kimbark.uchicago.edu |  switch myself." -- Harvard Law professor Charles
>the u of c law school     |  Fried, on whether due process was served in
>standard disclaimers      |  Coleman v Virginia. 

Still around, and still in law school?  Nice that the Net has stable anchors.


   Mitch

In article <1993May25.1...@philabs.philips.com> n...@philabs.philips.com (Nai-Chi Lee) writes:
>I hope New World Computing fires this marketing guy, because using the net
>for commerical advertisement is a serious violation.
>
I was wondering about that, too.  One possibility is he ISN'T legitimate,
but some low life looking for credit card numbers.  Anyone care to call
New World?

   Mitch