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Chris Woods wrote in message <35893826...@cowboy.net>...
>Kangaeru Hito wrote:
>>
>> Kelvin Lim wrote in message <3588676...@news.pacific.net.sg>...
>> >
>> >
>> >I don't know whether you realise this, but the World Charts uses a
>> >rather complex set of calculations and algorithms to determine the
>> >rankings, not simply a direct count of the number of votes. I'd
>> >suggest you go find out more about this before jumping to any
>> >conclusions.
>> >
>>
>> I do know about the many algorithms, but the maintainers have stated that
a
>> particular game "Sakura Taisen" will never be allowed to reach the #1
>> position, what is the point of voting for your favorate game if the chart
>> maintainers will deliberately keep it from reaching a certain level?
Note,
>> that if it happens to ST it could happen to any item on the charts....
>
>Where is this statement?
>
>Chris Woods who can't figure out why he's so intrested in this.

Alright, I've recently acquired one of Jurgen's e-mails  stating why Sakura
Taisen cannot reach the #1 position from one of the ST fan sites (since I
haven't recieved permission from Jurgen, I won't post the exact e-mail
here).  It seems as though Jurgen believes the reason ST has acquired so
many votes is due to excessive lobbying by various sites.  However, the site
I contacted states that the only thing that his/her site, as well as most of
the other ST fan sites has done is put a link and ask visitors to vote for
the game, which, as the maintainer points out, Jurgen seemed to support in
one of his newsletters.

Jurgen said this in his 4/27/98 newsletter:

"Support your favourite games! Use a button on your homepage, and make other
people vote for your favourites! See:
http://www.worldcharts.com/_button.html"

The other thing to note is that even after going through the many algorithms
used by World Charts ST came in first.  Jurgen however states that he
believes that this must be due to lobbies and simply excludes passed votes
that would cause it to reach the #1 position.

A few notes about Sakura Taisen, it is a somewhat obsure Japanese title and
I wouldn't be surprised if anyone reading this ng knew about before I
started this thread, I too learned that the game existed only about a month
ago.  However, I've learned that it is something of a cult-hit, in that it
has a very dedicated and loyal fan base.   Now I don't know whether it is
simply the dedication of the fans, or through excessive lobbying, as Jurgen
states, that this title has consistently reached a high position on the
charts, but it is stated in the letter that because it is an obsure title
that has little world-wide popularity it would be something of an
embarrassment to have the game on top of the chart.  Indeed, Jurgen seems to
state that many publishers and developers ridicule the chart simply for
having ST in the #2 or #3 position.  The point here is, do you believe that,
hypothetically if there were no chance of lobbying occuring, a title should
be unable to reach the #1 postion because it is not a good seller, or few
people know of it?  Jurgen believes so, I do not, and I believe that it
should be brought to the attention of ng that there is the possibility that
a title's position may be limited by its popularity outside the chart, and
this is , I believe, after the algorithms that World Charts use are applied.
Also, I'd like to say one last thing just in case I get yet another
accusatory reply, I've never played or voted for Sakura Taisen!  Thank you:)

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Kangaeru Hito
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