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"OldDog" <OldDog@city.pound> once tried to test me with:

> 
><jall...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:1109878534.812129.186690@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Can someone post a list of the Top 50 PC Games of all time as listed in
>> the Feb 2005 issue of PC Gamer?
>>
>> I had the issue, but now I don't. I briefly remember some of them:
>>
>> 1) Half Life
>> 2) Doom
> 3   Civ 2
> 4   HL 2

OK, well HL2 is heads and shoulders above HL1, so they fucked this list up 
right there. And DOOM? Please. It was good "in its day" but by far there 
have been better games. 


I think the problem with these "50 best of all time" lists is that they 
want to use it to "honor" really old games, even if those really old games 
have been completely superceeded by their modern game equivalents. So you 
end up with a mix of new and old games that is essentially just random 
because almost NONE of the old games could actually compete in the current 
market, which to me means they aren't that frigggin' great. Even the 
mediocre games of 2004 beat most of the great games of 1993.

> 5   Warcraft 2  (I see a pattern here)

The fact that they put this ahead of Starcraft is boggling. By FAR 
Starcraft kicked WC2's shiny little ass.

> 6   Diablo

Diablo II was better in every single way. It should be here (or higher) not 
down below.

> 7   StarCraft
> 8   X-Com
> 9   BattleField
> 10  Fallout
> 11  Baldur's Gate

Most BG fans would argue that BG2 is way more deserving than BG1.

> 12  GTA 3

This game belongs on the list. And it's about ranked correctly. The GTA3 
was far better than Vice City IMHO, and it beat the fun but not superb GTA1 
and GTA2.

> 13   Star Wars Tie Fighter
> 14   Ghost Recon
> 15   Duke Nukem 3D
> 16   Diablo 2   (the twos are winning)
> 17  Command and Conquer
> 18  FarCry

Wow. I'm surprised FarCry is on the top 50 of all time. I bet we don't even 
remember this game in 5 years.

> 19  Star Wars KotOR
> 20  Call of Duty
> 21  Star Wars Jedi Dark Forces 2  (the twos are lapping everyone)
> 22  Rainbow 6
> 23  The Sims

WTF?! Did they actually PLAY this mindless drivel? For the life of me I can 
not see how this game is so popular. I guess I 'just don't get it.'

> 24  EverQuest

Deserves to be in the top 5. Right under World of Warcraft.

> 25  Heros of Might and Magic 3
> 26  Quake
> 27 Dues Ex
> 28  Need for Speed Porsche
> 29  SimCity 2000
> 30  Unreal Tournament 2004
> 31  Mechwarrior 2   (the twos are now celebrating in the end zone)

Have to admit this version of the franchise was my favorite. The newer ones 
look nicer but I logged way more hours in MW2.

> 32  Ultima IV   (what the heck is a 4 doing in here?)

Uh, did you play it? This is indeed a case of "honoring the dead" but 
Ultima 4 was the game that essentially created the modern CRPG. By "modern" 
I mean an RPG that actually had choices and had a story and offered moral 
choices for the character. I would have picked Ultima 7, which did Ultima 4 
but did it even better.

> 33   Total Annihilation
> 35   Neverwinter Nights
> 36  Rise of Nation
> 37  Tomb Raider
> 38  Beavis & Butthead in Virtual Stupidity

??? Boggle ????

> 39  System Shock 2  (every game should just come out with a 2 behind it)

It was a great game. Superb even. But it had some major balancing issues 
that didn't get resolved until a patch.

> 40  IL2 Sturmovik
> 41  Max Payne

Very fun, but top 50 ever? Not sure I'd rank it that high.

> 42  Panzer General
> 43  High Heat Baseball 2002

No sports games deserve to be on this list. Because I say so.

> 44  Master of Orion

MOO2 was better. And also MOO2 should go in the top 10.

> 45 Sam and Max hit the Road
> 46  HomeWorld
> 47  Worms Armageddon
> 48  Wing Cmdr 3
> 49  The Secret of Monkey Island
> 50  Freedom Force



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