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"Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> Has anyone been able to make the original Black Mirror work on Vista? I'm 
> playing the second one now and it's really made me want to go back and 
> play the first one.  I've heard it won't work on Vista or 7 because of the 
> Starforce drivers.  If I install it then remove those will it work or is 
> there any way to get it to work?  I have an old XP computer I could play 
> it on but I want to play it on my laptop which has Vista (ick) on it. 
> Thanks!

Well if it is the starforce drivers that is the problem then look to see if 
there
are any nocd patches for the game.

mick 

On 7/26/2011 1:45 PM, mick wrote:
>
>
> "Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6c4cf$4e2f02cf$62143e3a$7014@ALLTEL.NET...
>> Has anyone been able to make the original Black Mirror work on Vista?
>> I'm playing the second one now and it's really made me want to go back
>> and play the first one. I've heard it won't work on Vista or 7 because
>> of the Starforce drivers. If I install it then remove those will it
>> work or is there any way to get it to work? I have an old XP computer
>> I could play it on but I want to play it on my laptop which has Vista
>> (ick) on it. Thanks!
>
> Well if it is the starforce drivers that is the problem then look to see
> if there
> are any nocd patches for the game.
>
> mick

There is a no cd patch but it makes me nervous to download it.  It might 
be my only choice if I want to play the game, though.

"Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> Has anyone been able to make the original Black Mirror work on Vista? I'm 
> playing the second one now and it's really made me want to go back and 
> play the first one.  I've heard it won't work on Vista or 7 because of the 
> Starforce drivers.  If I install it then remove those will it work or is 
> there any way to get it to work?  I have an old XP computer I could play 
> it on but I want to play it on my laptop which has Vista (ick) on it. 
> Thanks!

Hi Paula,

Haven't seen you here for a long time. Not many messages here for quite a 
while. Sorry I can't help you as I don't have Vista installed. I was 
thinking of you when I was playing Black Mirror II and III recently and 
wondered if you were playing them. After I finished both of them, I replayed 
the original Black Mirror. BM2 and 3 were quite good. I played the original 
Black Mirror on Win 98, but this time I played all three games on Win XP SP 
2. I had no problems running any of the three games on Win XP. My new 
computer is about 1.5 years old. When I got it, it had Vista installed. I 
liked Vista OK, but I liked Win XP better, so I went back to XP.  I haven't 
used Win 7.

Have you played both BM II and III ?

Mary

 

On 7/26/2011 10:49 PM, Mary wrote:
> "Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6c4cf$4e2f02cf$62143e3a$7014@ALLTEL.NET...
>> Has anyone been able to make the original Black Mirror work on Vista?
>> I'm playing the second one now and it's really made me want to go back
>> and play the first one. I've heard it won't work on Vista or 7 because
>> of the Starforce drivers. If I install it then remove those will it
>> work or is there any way to get it to work? I have an old XP computer
>> I could play it on but I want to play it on my laptop which has Vista
>> (ick) on it. Thanks!
>
> Hi Paula,
>
> Haven't seen you here for a long time. Not many messages here for quite
> a while. Sorry I can't help you as I don't have Vista installed. I was
> thinking of you when I was playing Black Mirror II and III recently and
> wondered if you were playing them. After I finished both of them, I
> replayed the original Black Mirror. BM2 and 3 were quite good. I played
> the original Black Mirror on Win 98, but this time I played all three
> games on Win XP SP 2. I had no problems running any of the three games
> on Win XP. My new computer is about 1.5 years old. When I got it, it had
> Vista installed. I liked Vista OK, but I liked Win XP better, so I went
> back to XP. I haven't used Win 7.
>
> Have you played both BM II and III ?
>
> Mary
>
>
>

Hi, Mary.

I come here now and then but there is usually not much going on.  I wish 
it was like it used to be.  Yes, I'm finally playing Black Mirror II. 
I'm really enjoying it and it's bringing back memories of the first one 
which I haven't played in a long time.  I'm near the end and I'll get 
the third one soon but I'd really like to replay the first one before I 
do.  I'm playing it on my husband's laptop which has Vista on it and 
I've read that the Starforce copy protection doesn't work on Vista so 
I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to get it to work.  I don't 
like Vista at all.  I recently built my own computer and I put Windows 7 
on it, which I like a lot.  I also still have my old XP computer but I 
want to use the laptop so I can be in the living room with my family 
when I play the game.

Very nice to hear from you!

   Paula

"Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> On 7/26/2011 10:49 PM, Mary wrote:
>> "Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:6c4cf$4e2f02cf$62143e3a$7014@ALLTEL.NET...
>>> Has anyone been able to make the original Black Mirror work on Vista?
>>> I'm playing the second one now and it's really made me want to go back
>>> and play the first one. I've heard it won't work on Vista or 7 because
>>> of the Starforce drivers. If I install it then remove those will it
>>> work or is there any way to get it to work? I have an old XP computer
>>> I could play it on but I want to play it on my laptop which has Vista
>>> (ick) on it. Thanks!
>>
>> Hi Paula,
>>
>> Haven't seen you here for a long time. Not many messages here for quite
>> a while. Sorry I can't help you as I don't have Vista installed. I was
>> thinking of you when I was playing Black Mirror II and III recently and
>> wondered if you were playing them. After I finished both of them, I
>> replayed the original Black Mirror. BM2 and 3 were quite good. I played
>> the original Black Mirror on Win 98, but this time I played all three
>> games on Win XP SP 2. I had no problems running any of the three games
>> on Win XP. My new computer is about 1.5 years old. When I got it, it had
>> Vista installed. I liked Vista OK, but I liked Win XP better, so I went
>> back to XP. I haven't used Win 7.
>>
>> Have you played both BM II and III ?
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>>
>
> Hi, Mary.
>
> I come here now and then but there is usually not much going on.  I wish 
> it was like it used to be.  Yes, I'm finally playing Black Mirror II. I'm 
> really enjoying it and it's bringing back memories of the first one which 
> I haven't played in a long time.  I'm near the end and I'll get the third 
> one soon but I'd really like to replay the first one before I do.

That's what I did, except I played both Black Mirror II and III then went 
back to Black Mirror 1 which I hadn't played for a long time and when I 
played it, there were a lot of places I couldn't remember in the game. I had 
put the end part out of my mind, but when I played it again, I remembered 
again. Bad ending. But playing the game and the story was quite good. I 
can't say which one of the three games I liked best. I'd be interested to 
know when you finish BM III and replay BM 1, which of the three games you 
liked best.

 >I'm playing it on my husband's laptop which has Vista on it and
> I've read that the Starforce copy protection doesn't work on Vista so I'm 
> trying to figure out if there is a way to get it to work.

Maybe Jenny will drop by here and see your message. She may know if there is 
a problem playing Black Mirror with Vista and if its an issue with games 
with Starforce not working with Vista. I don't know if Starforce was used to 
copy protect Black Mirror original game. I never played Black mirror 
original with Vista.

I don't
> like Vista at all.  I recently built my own computer and I put Windows 7 
> on it, which I like a lot.  I also still have my old XP computer but I 
> want to use the laptop so I can be in the living room with my family when 
> I play the game.

Good for you building your own computer. I haven't tried Win 7. I am quite 
happy with Win XP. Many people still use it and all my programs so far have 
played it, so until I am forced to move up, I will stay with what I have. If 
it aint broke...

> Very nice to hear from you!

Same here. How is your daughter and son? are you still at yahoo.com at the 
above address you give?

Mary

> That's what I did, except I played both Black Mirror II and III then
> went back to Black Mirror 1 which I hadn't played for a long time and
> when I played it, there were a lot of places I couldn't remember in the
> game. I had put the end part out of my mind, but when I played it again,
> I remembered again. Bad ending. But playing the game and the story was
> quite good. I can't say which one of the three games I liked best. I'd
> be interested to know when you finish BM III and replay BM 1, which of
> the three games you liked best.

Yes, the first one had a very bad ending but still I really enjoyed the 
game.  After that ending I was surprised to see a sequel!!  In BMII, 
there have been several references to the first one that I just don't 
remember what it's talking about which is why I want to go back and play 
it again.  I got it to run.  I had to use a no cd patch but now it will 
start and play so I'm excited.

>
>  >I'm playing it on my husband's laptop which has Vista on it and
>> I've read that the Starforce copy protection doesn't work on Vista so
>> I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to get it to work.
>
> Maybe Jenny will drop by here and see your message. She may know if
> there is a problem playing Black Mirror with Vista and if its an issue
> with games with Starforce not working with Vista. I don't know if
> Starforce was used to copy protect Black Mirror original game. I never
> played Black mirror original with Vista.
>
> I don't
>> like Vista at all. I recently built my own computer and I put Windows
>> 7 on it, which I like a lot. I also still have my old XP computer but
>> I want to use the laptop so I can be in the living room with my family
>> when I play the game.
>
> Good for you building your own computer. I haven't tried Win 7. I am
> quite happy with Win XP. Many people still use it and all my programs so
> far have played it, so until I am forced to move up, I will stay with
> what I have. If it aint broke...

I was very proud of myself for building my computer.  I have wanted to 
for years and this year for my birthday my husband and parents gave me 
money to buy the components for it.  It was actually pretty easy.  I 
felt the same about XP and didn't want to move up until it was 
necessary.  Especially after my husband got his laptop with Vista on it 
and I disliked it so much.  But when I built my new computer I decided I 
should be up to date and installed Windows 7 and I'm glad I did.

>
>> Very nice to hear from you!
>
> Same here. How is your daughter and son? are you still at yahoo.com at
> the above address you give?

My kids are both doing great.  I'm really not sure how long it has been 
since we have been in touch but my son is now married.  He has been for 
about two years now.  My daughter is 13.  She is slowly growing up but 
she's hanging on to her childhood as long as she can, which I'm happy 
about.  Some kids just seem to try to grow up way too fast these days. 
I do still have the yahoo address.


    Paula

"Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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>
>> That's what I did, except I played both Black Mirror II and III then
>> went back to Black Mirror 1 which I hadn't played for a long time and
>> when I played it, there were a lot of places I couldn't remember in the
>> game. I had put the end part out of my mind, but when I played it again,
>> I remembered again. Bad ending. But playing the game and the story was
>> quite good. I can't say which one of the three games I liked best. I'd
>> be interested to know when you finish BM III and replay BM 1, which of
>> the three games you liked best.

> Yes, the first one had a very bad ending but still I really enjoyed the 
> game.  After that ending I was surprised to see a sequel!!  In BMII, there 
> have been several references to the first one that I just don't remember 
> what it's talking about which is why I want to go back and play it again. 
> I got it to run.  I had to use a no cd patch but now it will start and 
> play so I'm excited.

That's good that you got the game going. I have never used a no cd patch so 
I don't know much about it. where did you get the no cd patch and how does 
it work just in case I ever need it.
I know what you mean about references in BMII, and that was a reason I went 
back to the original. As you say even though very bad ending, the game was 
still quite good and by the time you get to the ending, you have already 
enjoyed the game. A lot of times I don't remember endings of a lot of games, 
especially and if the ending isn't much good, or it doesn't make sense to 
me, or whatever.

>> I don't
>>> like Vista at all. I recently built my own computer and I put Windows
>>> 7 on it, which I like a lot. I also still have my old XP computer but
>>> I want to use the laptop so I can be in the living room with my family
>>> when I play the game.
>>
>> Good for you building your own computer. I haven't tried Win 7. I am
>> quite happy with Win XP. Many people still use it and all my programs so
>> far have played it, so until I am forced to move up, I will stay with
>> what I have. If it aint broke...

> I was very proud of myself for building my computer.  I have wanted to for 
> years and this year for my birthday my husband and parents gave me money 
> to buy the components for it.  It was actually pretty easy.

Its not so easy when it doesn't work after y ou get all the components in 
though :). I used to sometimes spend hours after building a system from 
scratch to find the video or something else didnt work and had to eliminate 
components bit by bit to find the problem.This last time I decided not to 
upgrade my system and got a desktop at a good price so it didn't seem worth 
upgrading my old system which would need several upgraded parts. Also, I 
used to see upgrading or starting over as a challenge, but now I don't want 
to bother as much as I used to. I would still upgrade if it was just one or 
two parts as long as it wasn't a motherboard :(
 I
> felt the same about XP and didn't want to move up until it was necessary. 
> Especially after my husband got his laptop with Vista on it and I disliked 
> it so much.  But when I built my new computer I decided I should be up to 
> date and installed Windows 7 and I'm glad I did.
>
>>
>>> Very nice to hear from you!
>>
>> Same here. How is your daughter and son? are you still at yahoo.com at
>> the above address you give?
>
> My kids are both doing great.  I'm really not sure how long it has been 
> since we have been in touch but my son is now married.  He has been for 
> about two years now.  My daughter is 13.  She is slowly growing up but 
> she's hanging on to her childhood as long as she can, which I'm happy 
> about.  Some kids just seem to try to grow up way too fast these days. I 
> do still have the yahoo address.

I think I was in touch with you not long after your son got married. any 
kids? Does your daughter still like to play games? I haven't played all that 
many games. I played Keepsake which I liked and Whispered World was good and 
Everlight which wasn't bad and sherlock Holmes Nemesis but that was a while 
ago. I like most of the Sherlock Holmes games.Other than that not that many 
adventure games that really appeal to me. I haven't bought Jane Jensen's 
"Gray Matter". She is very talented especially with the 3 Gabriel Knight 
series games. I liked all of them. I haven't decided about Gray Matter. I 
would have liked another GK game better, but there won't be one.

Mary

"Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> On 7/26/2011 1:45 PM, mick wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:6c4cf$4e2f02cf$62143e3a$7014@ALLTEL.NET...
>>> Has anyone been able to make the original Black Mirror work on Vista?
>>> I'm playing the second one now and it's really made me want to go back
>>> and play the first one. I've heard it won't work on Vista or 7 because
>>> of the Starforce drivers. If I install it then remove those will it
>>> work or is there any way to get it to work? I have an old XP computer
>>> I could play it on but I want to play it on my laptop which has Vista
>>> (ick) on it. Thanks!
>>
>> Well if it is the starforce drivers that is the problem then look to see
>> if there
>> are any nocd patches for the game.
>>
>> mick
>
> There is a no cd patch but it makes me nervous to download it.  It might 
> be my only choice if I want to play the game, though.

If your a bit nervous about using it why not try it by running the game 
through
a sandbox program (I use sandboxie). This will stop any changes being made 
by the
game to your filesystem - sandboxie will create a virtual directory and any 
file changes
will happen there instead.

mick 

On 7/27/2011 10:36 PM, mick wrote:
>
>
> "Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:34e27$4e2f294e$62143e3a$14788@ALLTEL.NET...
>> On 7/26/2011 1:45 PM, mick wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6c4cf$4e2f02cf$62143e3a$7014@ALLTEL.NET...
>>>> Has anyone been able to make the original Black Mirror work on Vista?
>>>> I'm playing the second one now and it's really made me want to go back
>>>> and play the first one. I've heard it won't work on Vista or 7 because
>>>> of the Starforce drivers. If I install it then remove those will it
>>>> work or is there any way to get it to work? I have an old XP computer
>>>> I could play it on but I want to play it on my laptop which has Vista
>>>> (ick) on it. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Well if it is the starforce drivers that is the problem then look to see
>>> if there
>>> are any nocd patches for the game.
>>>
>>> mick
>>
>> There is a no cd patch but it makes me nervous to download it. It
>> might be my only choice if I want to play the game, though.
>
> If your a bit nervous about using it why not try it by running the game
> through
> a sandbox program (I use sandboxie). This will stop any changes being
> made by the
> game to your filesystem - sandboxie will create a virtual directory and
> any file changes
> will happen there instead.
>
> mick

Thanks for the suggestion.  I have already downloaded and used it but it 
was okay.  I scanned it with everything I had before using it and it was 
clean.

    Paula

>
> Its not so easy when it doesn't work after y ou get all the components
> in though :). I used to sometimes spend hours after building a system
> from scratch to find the video or something else didnt work and had to
> eliminate components bit by bit to find the problem.This last time I
> decided not to upgrade my system and got a desktop at a good price so it
> didn't seem worth upgrading my old system which would need several
> upgraded parts. Also, I used to see upgrading or starting over as a
> challenge, but now I don't want to bother as much as I used to. I would
> still upgrade if it was just one or two parts as long as it wasn't a
> motherboard :(

I did a lot of research and asking before buying my components to be 
sure they were all compatible.  I still had the fear of getting it 
together and it not coming on (which actually did happen but turned out 
I just didn't turn the power supply on - lol duh)  My old computer had 
been upgraded just about as far as it would go.


>
> I think I was in touch with you not long after your son got married. any
> kids? Does your daughter still like to play games? I haven't played all
> that many games. I played Keepsake which I liked and Whispered World was
> good and Everlight which wasn't bad and sherlock Holmes Nemesis but that
> was a while ago. I like most of the Sherlock Holmes games.Other than
> that not that many adventure games that really appeal to me. I haven't
> bought Jane Jensen's "Gray Matter". She is very talented especially with
> the 3 Gabriel Knight series games. I liked all of them. I haven't
> decided about Gray Matter. I would have liked another GK game better,
> but there won't be one.


My daughter still plays some adventure games here and there but she 
mostly plays the Sims now.  She has lots of expansions and enjoys making 
her families and making them a home.  I was excited about Gray Matter 
but then I played part of the demo and just didn't get interested so I 
don't think I'll be playing it.  I plan to finish BMII, play BMI, then 
get BMIII.  I also want to get Secret Files 2 after that.  I liked the 
first one really well.  I also have a game called Alter Ego that I will 
have to fit in there somewhere.  I'll let you know my thoughts after 
I've played all three Black Mirror games.

	Paula

"Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Its not so easy when it doesn't work after y ou get all the components
>> in though :). I used to sometimes spend hours after building a system
>> from scratch to find the video or something else didnt work and had to
>> eliminate components bit by bit to find the problem.This last time I
>> decided not to upgrade my system and got a desktop at a good price so it
>> didn't seem worth upgrading my old system which would need several
>> upgraded parts. Also, I used to see upgrading or starting over as a
>> challenge, but now I don't want to bother as much as I used to. I would
>> still upgrade if it was just one or two parts as long as it wasn't a
>> motherboard :(

> I did a lot of research and asking before buying my components to be sure
> they were all compatible.  I still had the fear of getting it together and
> it not coming on (which actually did happen but turned out I just didn't
> turn the power supply on - lol duh)  My old computer had been upgraded
> just about as far as it would go.

Yes, sometimes it can be a very small thing that is wrong and can take a
while before you figure out what it is.
But good for you that you were able to upgrade all your components. You seem
to have done well.

>> I think I was in touch with you not long after your son got married. any
>> kids? Does your daughter still like to play games? I haven't played all
>> that many games. I played Keepsake which I liked and Whispered World was
>> good and Everlight which wasn't bad and sherlock Holmes Nemesis but that
>> was a while ago. I like most of the Sherlock Holmes games.Other than
>> that not that many adventure games that really appeal to me. I haven't
>> bought Jane Jensen's "Gray Matter". She is very talented especially with
>> the 3 Gabriel Knight series games. I liked all of them. I haven't
>> decided about Gray Matter. I would have liked another GK game better,
>> but there won't be one.
>
>
> My daughter still plays some adventure games here and there but she mostly
> plays the Sims now.  She has lots of expansions and enjoys making her
> families and making them a home.  I was excited about Gray Matter but then
> I played part of the demo and just didn't get interested so I don't think
> I'll be playing it.  I plan to finish BMII, play BMI, then get BMIII.  I
> also want to get Secret Files 2 after that.  I liked the first one really
> well.  I also have a game called Alter Ego that I will have to fit in
> there somewhere.  I'll let you know my thoughts after I've played all
> three Black Mirror games.

That's the impression I got about Gray Matter when I played part of the 
demo. I didn't find the demo very interesting, but maybe the game is OK. I 
don't know right now. The reviews I've read on it, seem to be mixed. I don't 
think Secret Files 2 has been published in North America has it? I haven't 
played Alter Ego and don't know anythng about it.

Mary

>
> That's the impression I got about Gray Matter when I played part of the
> demo. I didn't find the demo very interesting, but maybe the game is OK.
> I don't know right now. The reviews I've read on it, seem to be mixed. I
> don't think Secret Files 2 has been published in North America has it? I
> haven't played Alter Ego and don't know anythng about it.
>
> Mary
>

Secret Files 2 isn't available on Amazon yet but I saw it available for 
download at Gamersgate for 9.99 so I thought I might get it.  I don't 
know much about Alter Ego, either, but I saw it on sale for $4.99 when I 
got BMII and it looked interesting so I just decided to get it too and 
try it.

	Paula

Paula wrote:
>> That's the impression I got about Gray Matter when I played part of the
>> demo. I didn't find the demo very interesting, but maybe the game is OK.
>> I don't know right now. The reviews I've read on it, seem to be mixed. I
>> don't think Secret Files 2 has been published in North America has it? I
>> haven't played Alter Ego and don't know anythng about it.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>
> Secret Files 2 isn't available on Amazon yet but I saw it available for
> download at Gamersgate for 9.99 so I thought I might get it.  I don't
> know much about Alter Ego, either, but I saw it on sale for $4.99 when I
> got BMII and it looked interesting so I just decided to get it too and
> try it.

I don't think Gamersgate games are available to people outside the U.S. I 
see their games are downloadable only. do they let you copy the game onto a 
CD? still for $9.99 its a good price. Alter Ego is on Amazon.com for $19.99, 
but its $29.99 on amazon.Canada who have much less variety of games than 
Amazon.com and usually more expensive. BM 2 and 3 are not even available on 
Amazon.Canada. I bought BM 3 from amazon.com. They don't always send games 
outside the U.S. but for a few months now they will send certain games to 
Canada (maybe other countries too, I don't know) but not all games.

Mary 

On 7/28/2011 5:34 PM, Mary wrote:
> Paula wrote:
>>> That's the impression I got about Gray Matter when I played part of the
>>> demo. I didn't find the demo very interesting, but maybe the game is OK.
>>> I don't know right now. The reviews I've read on it, seem to be mixed. I
>>> don't think Secret Files 2 has been published in North America has it? I
>>> haven't played Alter Ego and don't know anythng about it.
>>>
>>> Mary
>>>
>>
>> Secret Files 2 isn't available on Amazon yet but I saw it available for
>> download at Gamersgate for 9.99 so I thought I might get it. I don't
>> know much about Alter Ego, either, but I saw it on sale for $4.99 when I
>> got BMII and it looked interesting so I just decided to get it too and
>> try it.
>
> I don't think Gamersgate games are available to people outside the U.S.
> I see their games are downloadable only. do they let you copy the game
> onto a CD? still for $9.99 its a good price. Alter Ego is on Amazon.com
> for $19.99, but its $29.99 on amazon.Canada who have much less variety
> of games than Amazon.com and usually more expensive. BM 2 and 3 are not
> even available on Amazon.Canada. I bought BM 3 from amazon.com. They
> don't always send games outside the U.S. but for a few months now they
> will send certain games to Canada (maybe other countries too, I don't
> know) but not all games.
>
> Mary

I don't know anything about Gamersgate really but saw Secret Files 2 
available for a good price I thought I might try it but it seems kind of 
odd that they have it available when no one else does.  I downloaded 
BMII from Amazon for 9.99 and since Alter Ego was on sale so low I just 
grabbed it too. It was sort of on a whim.  lol I was able to burn them 
to a DVD so I assume if I get Secret Files 2 from Gamersgate I would be 
able to, also.  Also, if you download the game, you don't have to use 
the cd to play the game and I like that.

	Paula

"Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> On 7/28/2011 5:34 PM, Mary wrote:
>> Paula wrote:
>>>> That's the impression I got about Gray Matter when I played part of the
>>>> demo. I didn't find the demo very interesting, but maybe the game is 
>>>> OK.
>>>> I don't know right now. The reviews I've read on it, seem to be mixed. 
>>>> I
>>>> don't think Secret Files 2 has been published in North America has it? 
>>>> I
>>>> haven't played Alter Ego and don't know anythng about it.
>>>>
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>
>>> Secret Files 2 isn't available on Amazon yet but I saw it available for
>>> download at Gamersgate for 9.99 so I thought I might get it. I don't
>>> know much about Alter Ego, either, but I saw it on sale for $4.99 when I
>>> got BMII and it looked interesting so I just decided to get it too and
>>> try it.
>>
>> I don't think Gamersgate games are available to people outside the U.S.
>> I see their games are downloadable only. do they let you copy the game
>> onto a CD? still for $9.99 its a good price. Alter Ego is on Amazon.com
>> for $19.99, but its $29.99 on amazon.Canada who have much less variety
>> of games than Amazon.com and usually more expensive. BM 2 and 3 are not
>> even available on Amazon.Canada. I bought BM 3 from amazon.com. They
>> don't always send games outside the U.S. but for a few months now they
>> will send certain games to Canada (maybe other countries too, I don't
>> know) but not all games.
>>
>> Mary
>
> I don't know anything about Gamersgate really but saw Secret Files 2 
> available for a good price I thought I might try it but it seems kind of 
> odd that they have it available when no one else does.  I downloaded BMII 
> from Amazon for 9.99 and since Alter Ego was on sale so low I just grabbed 
> it too. It was sort of on a whim.  lol I was able to burn them to a DVD so 
> I assume if I get Secret Files 2 from Gamersgate I would be able to, also. 
> Also, if you download the game, you don't have to use the cd to play the 
> game and I like that.

It is probably good for you to download games as you used to just buy one at 
a time unless you got rich as time has gone on -LOL. I don't know anything 
about Gamersgate, but I took a quick look but didn't see Secret files 2 and 
didn't see anything about if you had to live in the U.S. to download it. 
Many times with downloaded game, anybody can download it from any country, 
but maybe not always. Do you have to be a member on Gamersgate such as you 
do on Bigfish to get cheap prices for downloaded games?

Mary 

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:09:16 -0500, Paula <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Has anyone been able to make the original Black Mirror work on Vista? 
>I'm playing the second one now and it's really made me want to go back 
>and play the first one.  I've heard it won't work on Vista or 7 because 
>of the Starforce drivers.  If I install it then remove those will it 
>work or is there any way to get it to work?  I have an old XP computer I 
>could play it on but I want to play it on my laptop which has Vista 
>(ick) on it.  Thanks!
>
>   Paula

You girls must be desperate for adventure games.  I just looked up a
review of BM3 at GameSpot because I thought about buying but it got
panned big time.  5.5/10.  Sluggish pace, tedious inventory problems,
frustrating puzzles, confusing story, horrible voice acting.

My wife and I are enjoying playing Lost Horizon together!

-pw

"PW" <emailaddyinsig@ifIremember.com> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:09:16 -0500, Paula <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Has anyone been able to make the original Black Mirror work on Vista?
>>I'm playing the second one now and it's really made me want to go back
>>and play the first one.  I've heard it won't work on Vista or 7 because
>>of the Starforce drivers.  If I install it then remove those will it
>>work or is there any way to get it to work?  I have an old XP computer I
>>could play it on but I want to play it on my laptop which has Vista
>>(ick) on it.  Thanks!
>>
>>   Paula
>
> You girls must be desperate for adventure games.  I just looked up a
> review of BM3 at GameSpot because I thought about buying but it got
> panned big time.  5.5/10.  Sluggish pace, tedious inventory problems,
> frustrating puzzles, confusing story, horrible voice acting.
>
> My wife and I are enjoying playing Lost Horizon together!

I'll blame it on Paula. She first played Black Mirror when it first came out 
years ago, and from that time, she wanted to play any or all of Black Mirror 
sequels. I liked Black mirror the original too, and when BM 2 and 3 came 
out, I got them and played them too. I don't care what the critics say, they 
are all quite good games. Did you play any Black mirror games?  Another game 
I liked was Whispered World. Have you played it? its not that old. I only 
got as far as playing some of the demo of Lost Horizon. Maybe I should have 
gone further in the demo. Have you played Gray Matter? did you play any of 
the Gabriel Knight series games? they are old games now, and I've played a 
lot of games since then, but they are still in my top games.

Mary 

On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:36:49 -0400, "Mary" <no@invalid.ddd.> wrote:

>"PW" <emailaddyinsig@ifIremember.com> wrote in message 
>news:cs84371gt1a0ec41p5lfas2radaih68b2n@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:09:16 -0500, Paula <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Has anyone been able to make the original Black Mirror work on Vista?
>>>I'm playing the second one now and it's really made me want to go back
>>>and play the first one.  I've heard it won't work on Vista or 7 because
>>>of the Starforce drivers.  If I install it then remove those will it
>>>work or is there any way to get it to work?  I have an old XP computer I
>>>could play it on but I want to play it on my laptop which has Vista
>>>(ick) on it.  Thanks!
>>>
>>>   Paula
>>
>> You girls must be desperate for adventure games.  I just looked up a
>> review of BM3 at GameSpot because I thought about buying but it got
>> panned big time.  5.5/10.  Sluggish pace, tedious inventory problems,
>> frustrating puzzles, confusing story, horrible voice acting.
>>
>> My wife and I are enjoying playing Lost Horizon together!
>
>I'll blame it on Paula. She first played Black Mirror when it first came out 
>years ago, and from that time, she wanted to play any or all of Black Mirror 
>sequels. I liked Black mirror the original too, and when BM 2 and 3 came 
>out, I got them and played them too. I don't care what the critics say, they 
>are all quite good games. Did you play any Black mirror games?  Another game 
>I liked was Whispered World. Have you played it? its not that old. I only 
>got as far as playing some of the demo of Lost Horizon. Maybe I should have 
>gone further in the demo. Have you played Gray Matter? did you play any of 
>the Gabriel Knight series games? they are old games now, and I've played a 
>lot of games since then, but they are still in my top games.
>
>Mary 


Hi Mary,

I never played any of the BM games although they look interesting.  I
will not put up with messed up puzzles or hard games.  We played all
the Gabriel Knight games together and loved them big time.  Especially
the second (?) one where it was more cinematic than the rest.  That
must have been in the 90s.  Our favorite for sure and nothing has come
close.  We also liked the Syberia series but my wife lost interest
with the second one.

What is Gray Matter about?  Never heard of Whispered World.

It's a shame that adventure games have fallen out of popularity for so
many years.  They had a nice run a long time ago.

-paul

Played it on XP. :)

>>
>> I don't know anything about Gamersgate really but saw Secret Files 2
>> available for a good price I thought I might try it but it seems kind
>> of odd that they have it available when no one else does. I downloaded
>> BMII from Amazon for 9.99 and since Alter Ego was on sale so low I
>> just grabbed it too. It was sort of on a whim. lol I was able to burn
>> them to a DVD so I assume if I get Secret Files 2 from Gamersgate I
>> would be able to, also. Also, if you download the game, you don't have
>> to use the cd to play the game and I like that.
>
> It is probably good for you to download games as you used to just buy
> one at a time unless you got rich as time has gone on -LOL. I don't know
> anything about Gamersgate, but I took a quick look but didn't see Secret
> files 2 and didn't see anything about if you had to live in the U.S. to
> download it. Many times with downloaded game, anybody can download it
> from any country, but maybe not always. Do you have to be a member on
> Gamersgate such as you do on Bigfish to get cheap prices for downloaded
> games?
>
> Mary

It's here 
http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-SF2PC/secret-files-2-puritas-cordis.  It 
looks like you just have to register on their site to buy the games.  I 
read the FAQ and it doesn't look like you are able to burn the game to a 
disk like I was from Amazon but it says you can download it as many 
times as you want from their site.  I'm not sure if I'll do it or just 
wait for Amazon.  It might be available on Amazon by the time I finish 
all the other games I have waiting.  lol

     Paula

"PW" <emailaddyinsig@ifIremember.com> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:36:49 -0400, "Mary" <no@invalid.ddd.> wrote:
>
>>"PW" <emailaddyinsig@ifIremember.com> wrote in message
>>news:cs84371gt1a0ec41p5lfas2radaih68b2n@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:09:16 -0500, Paula <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Has anyone been able to make the original Black Mirror work on Vista?
>>>>I'm playing the second one now and it's really made me want to go back
>>>>and play the first one.  I've heard it won't work on Vista or 7 because
>>>>of the Starforce drivers.  If I install it then remove those will it
>>>>work or is there any way to get it to work?  I have an old XP computer I
>>>>could play it on but I want to play it on my laptop which has Vista
>>>>(ick) on it.  Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>   Paula
>>>
>>> You girls must be desperate for adventure games.  I just looked up a
>>> review of BM3 at GameSpot because I thought about buying but it got
>>> panned big time.  5.5/10.  Sluggish pace, tedious inventory problems,
>>> frustrating puzzles, confusing story, horrible voice acting.
>>>
>>> My wife and I are enjoying playing Lost Horizon together!
>>
>>I'll blame it on Paula. She first played Black Mirror when it first came 
>>out
>>years ago, and from that time, she wanted to play any or all of Black 
>>Mirror
>>sequels. I liked Black mirror the original too, and when BM 2 and 3 came
>>out, I got them and played them too. I don't care what the critics say, 
>>they
>>are all quite good games. Did you play any Black mirror games?  Another 
>>game
>>I liked was Whispered World. Have you played it? its not that old. I only
>>got as far as playing some of the demo of Lost Horizon. Maybe I should 
>>have
>>gone further in the demo. Have you played Gray Matter? did you play any of
>>the Gabriel Knight series games? they are old games now, and I've played a
>>lot of games since then, but they are still in my top games.
>>
>>Mary
>
>
> Hi Mary,

> I never played any of the BM games although they look interesting.  I
> will not put up with messed up puzzles or hard games.

You have to look at reviews usually to find out if the puzzles  or the game 
is hard or not. I don't like hard games or puzzles either. There is always 
walkthroughs of course which I don't hesitate to use quite often.

 We played all
> the Gabriel Knight games together and loved them big time.  Especially
> the second (?) one where it was more cinematic than the rest.  That
> must have been in the 90s.  Our favorite for sure and nothing has come
> close.  We also liked the Syberia series but my wife lost interest
> with the second one.

Yes, GK 2, The Best Within was the cinematic one. GK1 made in 1993, GK2 and 
GK3 made in 1998/1999.
I replayed GK3 a few months ago. I liked all three games. The two Syberia 
games were also good. I liked both games, though I thought the first one was 
better.

IMO, the BM games are all quite good. I don't usually check Gamespot for 
their reviews as they seem to be down on a lot of games that other sites 
seemed to think were quite good.

> What is Gray Matter about?  Never heard of Whispered World.

Here's a demo of Gray matter if you are interested:

http://www.fileplanet.com/217641/210000/fileinfo/Gray-Matter-Demo

Review of Gray Matter:
http://www.adventuregamers.com/article/id,1251/

Whispered world review:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/the-whispered-world-review

Whispered world is on Amazon for only $6.18 if you live in the U.S. I'm in 
Canada and they don't sell it outside of the U.S.
I my copy from a computer friend.

> It's a shame that adventure games have fallen out of popularity for so
> many years.  They had a nice run a long time ago.

I agree. Some people think of GK3 as being one of the last great adventure 
games. But I've played some good adventure games since then, though they 
don't make nearly as many good adventure games of the same carliber as they 
used to. But it would be nice if they did.

Mary

On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:50:16 -0400, "Mary" <no@invalid.ddd.> wrote:
Thanks Mary!

-paul

"Paula" <pdwMT@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> Thanks for the suggestion.  I have already downloaded and used it but it
> was okay.  I scanned it with everything I had before using it and it was
> clean.

You probably already know this but you can scan it online at virustotal.com,
it checks individual files on demand using tens of different virus engines
at once.

The times that I used no CD exe files from either gamecopyworld or megagames
they were virus free and safe, but I haven't done it in a while now.

On 8/1/2011 9:50 PM, MetalGuru wrote:
> "Paula"<pdwMT@yahoo.com>  wrote
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion.  I have already downloaded and used it but it
>> was okay.  I scanned it with everything I had before using it and it was
>> clean.
>
> You probably already know this but you can scan it online at virustotal.com,
> it checks individual files on demand using tens of different virus engines
> at once.
>
> The times that I used no CD exe files from either gamecopyworld or megagames
> they were virus free and safe, but I haven't done it in a while now.
>
>
>
>
>
>
I didn't know that but if I have to use one again I'll know.  Thanks.  :)