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"Murray Peterson" <mwp@home.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Jenn...@nospam.com (Jenny100) wrote:
>

I took another look at that little square thing the old man gave
me along with the turtle. It had little figures drawn on it, but
I didn't see anything I'd call a clue to where to stand to start
the turtle walk. Maybe it was a clue for something else, like
which incense candle to light first. But I didn't understand it
and gave up trying.

>
> The trick we used was to cut out some pieces of paper and draw the
> paths on them in simple 2D.  It's still not trivial to solve, but it
> gets rid of the visual clutter, and allows you to try many
> combinations in a hurry.
>

I would never be able to draw them to the proper scale.
My drawings all tend to be lopsided.
I think it's a kind of brain defect. :�p

> >The Cryo walkthrough (which I found after finishing the game) says
> >this:
> > Place the disks on the bridge mechanism in the order of creation
> >defined by the clues given by the characters.
> >The bridge comes half way down.
> >Then place the disks as follows, the order of destruction:
> >
> >I didn't quite catch what the 'characters' were saying when they
> >gave me the disks and I didn't ask them to repeat what they
> >said. I'm not sure if I am interested enough to go back and
> >work it out though.
>
> We went back and listened to those clues 3 times.  They still didn't
> help us.  If they were clues, then they were too obscure for us.
>

I wrote down what each of them said, making note of the disk
they gave me. Then I compared it with the final answers.

Black disk with mountain
Metal is born of it. Wood later destroys it.

Brown dish with white dots (how one walkthrough described it)
It creates water but is later consumed by fire.

Dragons on black background
Water drowns it.

Brown wood dish
It engenders fire and is later eaten by metal

Herringbone pattern dish
It fashions wood

Final answers:

Order of creation

Mountains - Metal is born of it
Brown with white dots - It creates water
Herringbone - It fashions wood
Brown wood - It engenders fire
Dragons

There's a sort of consistency here if you imagine the disk called
"brown with white dots" to be made out of metal. Then you see
the metal disk follows the disk with mountains. The herringbone
disk "fashions wood" and is followed by the wooden disk. If you
imagine the herringbone disk to have that pattern because it's
woven and used as a sieve, that might count as a "water disk."
It follows the "brown with white dots" disk, which "creates water."
And dragons would stand for fire, "engendered" by the brown
wood disk.

Order of destruction:

Herringbone
Dragon - Water drowns it
Brown with white dots - Is later consumed by fire
Brown wood - Is later eaten by metal
Mountains - Wood later destroys it

And here you see the reverse. The mountains are "destroyed"
by the wood disk above it. The wood disk is "eaten" by the
"brown with white dots disk" which stood for metal. That metal
disk was "consumed" by fire - the dragon disk. and the dragon
disk was drowned by the herringbone water disk.

It makes a sort of sense once you already know the answer,
but understanding how to interpret the clues previous to
solving the puzzle?

> >I don't know if there is any way of knowing that you are
> >supposed to set the arrow to aim at the hunter ahead of time.
> >But you can always go back and do it later. What does the lady
> >say if you haven't set the arrow toward the hunter? Does she
> >mention her cubs?
>
> I don't remember.  Either way, pretty obscure.
>

I went back and checked. She says something like "I'd have helped
you if you'd saved me." Since she's holding a staff with a golden
fox's head on it and you saw the fox and the hunter on the golden
door, I suppose it would be possible to piece these clues together.
After not saving her, I was able to leave hell, go back to the golden
door, set it to the fox's advantage, return to hell, and talk to the lady
again. She gave me the fan this time.

> BTW, in spite of all this whining, I still enjoyed the game very
> much.
>

I thought the basin with the miniature dragon swimming around
in it and that whole little fairy tale world connected to the basin
was so charming...

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> Murray Peterson
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