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<erimess> wrote in message
news:4jf2q05r6jdjevi4h4m5grvrimqsqq1fb4@4ax.com...
> Hi, while it sounds like you and I think alike on many issues, I do
> want to address some things.  You seem to be coming from the point of
> view that the two women you discussed, who appeared to be lazy butt's
> who wanted to IM their spouses all day, are the norm for anyone who
> complains about their job.  This may not be what you are attempting to
> do, or it may be this is your only experience and therefore the only
> side you see (doesn't sound like it) ... I don't know.  You may just
> be presenting it as a possible option, and are well aware that
> something else could exist.  I just wanted to make sure that other
> side was well presented also.  Besides, you sound like a reasonable
> person and I enjoy conversations with reasonable people.  (What group
> are you on anyway - don't recognize the name.)

I hail from comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg (I've read a couple of other groups
this thread is going to... but not in a loooooooong time)

As for my post...

First off, what started this whole thread was that we had somebody come in
and say "I read this article about the horror of working for EA!!!  We
should boycott their product based on this one article!"

Now, I'm not saying what was in the article is either true or false...
nobody will really know for sure, since not only is the article posted
anonymously (which takes away some of its credibility) but its also posted
by somebody other than the complaintant (posted by the wife or husband of an
EA employee, which takes away even more of its credibility)

I hearken this to something like when a couple gets divorced...  in most
cases the friends of the wife side with her and hate and despise the
husband... and the friends of the husband side with him and hate and despise
the wife.  This happens almost every time and its because the friends
involved only hear one side of the story, which casts their friend (either
the husband or wife) in the best possible light and with as much
embellishment of the truth as he/she wants to paint the other as the bad
guy/gal.

That might sound like a stretch, but realistically thats what the OP to this
thread was doing... coming in here and saying "Here is a story about life at
Electronic Arts of which you will hear only a limited and brief recap of
events from only one side of story of one person... because of this we
should hate EA!"

And thats where the whole "2 women I worked with at the Government of
British Columbia" tale I recounted came from...  the point there was that
with the proper spin doctoring you could make that job look like "a dream
job come true" or "a real horror show where any and all should pity the poor
employees who work there"

But either way, this is one person's story... even if its the absolute truth
its abit of a stretch to ask people to boycott a company because of it.

And then if you actually read the full article... it has these magic words:
"EA salaried employees"

Which comes from:
"for the honor of this treatment EA salaried employees receive a) no
overtime; b) no compensation time! ('comp' time is the equalization of time
off for overtime -- any hours spent during a crunch accrue into days off
after the product has shipped); c) no additional sick or vacation leave."

IMPORTANT: This is not just an EA policy...  this is pretty much the norm
for salaried employees throughout the US (Doesn't the US Dept of Labor
actually have a list of regulations about what salaried employees are and
are not entitled to?)

This is one of the most clear cut cases of "If you don't like the job,
QUIT!".    In the interview he/she was told it was going to be long hours,
especially at crunch time...  they know its a salaried position, so they
should have known what benefits they were and were not entitled to...  If
short hours and OT and Comp Time were so important to them, they shouldn't
have even taken the job in the first place

But thats just my 2 cents...

Clint