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In article <kh2n6WO00...@andrew.cmu.edu>, Markus Kassbohrer
<mk...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>     (1)    Knives have a bit more uses than killing people. Like, eating
> steaks, or other things that are too big to eat in one bite and too
> resistant to decompose by other means. Guns only exist for either
> enjoyment (target shooting, whatever) or crime. Nothing really necessary.

	Were not talking steak knifes here, were talking about those KILLER
ASSULT knifes. The ones with 6 inch blades, blood grooves, black
non reflective blades. Nobody cuts steaks with those but sickos.
> 
>     (2)    To kill someone with a gun you can be 50m away, brace, and
> just apply a few grams of pressure on the trigger. You can do that quite

	Most criminals can't hit anything at 50 feet away. Most guns used 
in crimes are homemade smoothbores that have an effictive range less
than 10 feet.

> often per minute. To kill someone with a knife you have to be in
> hand-to-hand combat and hit the right place, most probably against

	Nope, to use a knife you walk up behind a person, stab him a few times
and leave. Knifes don't go BANG, and therefore you stand a better chance
of escaping unnoticed with your crime.

> resistance. This is psychologically a lot more disturbing and physically
> a lot harder to do.

	Oh, a person walking on a train, blasting people, is going to care about
psychologically?

> 
>     (3)    I'm from Germany. We have TIGHT gun control. We also don't
> have a police that's outgunned with their 9mm pistols. It feels, and
> statistically is, a LOT safer.

	Only if your white, and German. If your Turkish or any other forign
national, look out.

> So you advocate basing gun policy on the assumption that large-scale
> riots that the police, for whatever reason, can't control, are a regular
> occasion? Damn, what has become of this country??

	Or criminals breaking into your home and threating you.

	We had a 92 year old woman in a wheel chair, shoot and kill a home 
invader.

> > How about if somebody threatens to kill you
> > and the police don't take it seriously but you KNOW this person is
> > serious.  You can't exactly go walking around the street with a
> > shotgun; you need a concealable handgun.
> Then that someone gets a gun, with or without waiting period, scouts you
> out a bit, waits for you somewhere, standing there innocently where no
> one notices, possibily for five or six days if you take the usual
> precautions (ie vary your itineraries, of which there is a finite
> number), until you pass by, then calmly draws his gun, aims, and shoots
> you down before you even think of reaching to draw yours.

	You assuming the attacker knows the other person is armed, a bad 
assumption. Also, this person can be nailed by the stalking laws
if he did this.


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