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>http://www.rs2vietnam.com/

    25% off sale on it:
https://www.gamersgate.com/campaign/id/3740/

rms

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:46:57 -0600, "rms"
<rsqui...@MOOyossmanMOO.net> wrote:

>>http://www.rs2vietnam.com/
>
>    25% off sale on it:
>https://www.gamersgate.com/campaign/id/3740/
>
>rms

Steam is currently 25% off as well.  I will probably pick it up at 23
bucks, but don't know if I want to be a part of the beta just yet.

Multi player only.

(Thinks ) There are many WWII shooters and quite a number in Vietnam,
but has there ever been one set in Korea ? 
Current concerns re. North Korea don't mention that
it date's back to the Korean War  1950 -53.
which involved just about every major Country one way or another.
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")  mouse (Nasty One That)

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 03:00:56 +0100, "Trimble Bracegirdle"
<no-spam@never.spam> wrote:

>Multi player only.

Yes Rising Storm / Red Orchestra are competitive, team objective based
tactical shooters.

One of the elements that sets Tripwire's games apart is that they FEEL
like proper PC games.  None of this "designed for console but we'll
figure out the PC port later" shit.  They do a good job of capturing
what made early online team games great to begin with.

>(Thinks ) There are many WWII shooters and quite a number in Vietnam,
>but has there ever been one set in Korea ? 
>Current concerns re. North Korea don't mention that
>it date's back to the Korean War  1950 -53.
>which involved just about every major Country one way or another.

I've always thought the number of WWII offerings were disproportionate
to everything else.  There are actually very few Vietnam first person
team shooters ever created.  Battlefield Vietnam (2004) and the
Vietnam expansion for Battlefield Bad Company 2 are about the only
memorable entries, but I enjoyed the hell out of both.

I enjoyed the single player of Vietcong when it was released.  The
multiplayer wasn't particularly memorable, partially because the lobby
servers were powered by Gamespy, which was pretty common for the time,
but just like with many multiplayer titles of that area, getting a
reasonable online game going is not as straightfoward as it is today.

About games for the Korean war, even if I look up the sparse list of
games that even touch on it in some way, I can only claim having
played a few of them (Chuck Yeagers Air Combat Simulator comes to
mind, but I doubt anyone would call that a Korean war game, only
planes of that era).

Perhaps the relatively short duration of the Korean war, or perhaps a
lowered perception of societal impact compared to something like WWII
or Vietnam is the reason there are not a lot of movies or video games
about it.  In the USA when you say Korean War most people my age
probably remember the TV show M.A.S.H., which lasted almost four times
as many years as the war that was portrayed within it.

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 03:00:56 +0100, "Trimble Bracegirdle"
<no-spam@never.spam> wrote:

>Multi player only.
>
>(Thinks ) There are many WWII shooters and quite a number in Vietnam,
>but has there ever been one set in Korea ? 
>Current concerns re. North Korea don't mention that
>it date's back to the Korean War  1950 -53.
>which involved just about every major Country one way or another.


There weren't any shooters set in the Korean War, but there were a few
games that used that conflict (police action! :) as a backdrop. In the
flight-sim genre, there was "Saber Ace" and "MIG Alley", while on the
strategy front you had "Conflict Korea" as an old-school war-game,
whereas "Korea: Forgotten Conflict" was more tactical (sort of like
the old "Commandos" games).

Other games -including shooters - have used Korea as part of the
setting but usually are focused on the post-war period. Flight-sims
remained the most common: "Falcon 4.0" had a whole campaign set there,
as did the Janes' Longbow expansion "Flashpoint Korea"; "A-10
Thunderbolt II: Silent Thunder" had some missions set there as well.
On the shooter front, I recall that one of the missions in "Splinter
Cell II" had you infiltrate a North Korean Base, and the attrocious
"Rogue Warrior" had some missions set there too. Arguably, all of the
"Homefront" games are set in Korea, since that nation annexed the USA
and all its territory is considered part of the greater korean empire
;-)

I think one of the major reasons that we don't see new games featuring
that setting is that South Korea is a major market and they don't
actually like thinking about that conflict too much (understandable,
considering it is technically still in effect and the threat their
Northern cousins still pose).  It being a civil war also meant that
the divisions weren't as clear cut as the current boundaries suggest.
Also, at least for a shooter, the war wasn't too different from the
ground-pounder's viewpoint than that in WW2; it was mostly the same
weapons and tactics, so it would play out pretty similarly to any
other WW2 game. Given this and the historic baggage, its no wonder
developers have focused more on the "heroic" battles of WW2 and left
the Korean conflict a mostly forgotten chapter in gaming history. 

Hell, the war is barely touched on by OTHER media (TV, movies) so we
shouldn't be too surprised that games leave it alone too. I mean,
other than MASH, can you name one movie or TV show set during that
period off the top of your head? ;-)

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 09:37:06 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:


>Other games -including shooters - have used Korea as part of the
>setting but usually are focused on the post-war period. Flight-sims
>remained the most common: "Falcon 4.0" had a whole campaign set there,
>as did the Janes' Longbow expansion "Flashpoint Korea"; "A-10
>Thunderbolt II: Silent Thunder" had some missions set there as well.
>On the shooter front, I recall that one of the missions in "Splinter
>Cell II" had you infiltrate a North Korean Base, and the attrocious
>"Rogue Warrior" had some missions set there too. Arguably, all of the
>"Homefront" games are set in Korea, since that nation annexed the USA
>and all its territory is considered part of the greater korean empire
>;-)

Let's add to that list Crysis - North Korean soldiers!

>I think one of the major reasons that we don't see new games featuring
>that setting is that South Korea is a major market and they don't
>actually like thinking about that conflict too much (understandable,
>considering it is technically still in effect and the threat their
>Northern cousins still pose).  

I was having a conversation with some guys I used to play team
shooters with regularly, about why there were so few games that took
on the Vietnam war.  One of them suggested it is because its the war
that a lot of people in the US would like to forget -- a controversial
war that many were not in support of in the first place, and many
would now like to forget.  And, it ended up being a waste of
lives/time/effort/money since the country reverted to communism almost
immediately after we left anyway, and it didn't exactly turn out to be
a bad them for them or anyone else in the long run.

I actually thought that the controversy of the war, and everything
else that was going on in the USA during that time frame makes it an
even more interesting war to base a game on than most.  If so many
movies and TV shows were created around this war, why is the same not
true about games?   ...this was a question that his explanation did
not satisfy in my mind.