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On 11/4/2016 8:11 AM, Rin Stowleigh wrote:
>
> Think about "trailers" for example.  With a movie trailer, you are
> seeing clips from the actual film, the marketing benefit being that
> the clips were strategically chosen and edited from the actual footage
> in a way that supports advertising goals.

I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying but just as an aside 
frequently you are NOT seeing actual clips from a movie in the trailers 
or other advertising.  Many ad related materials are put together before 
shooting has finished (in some cases before its even begun), let alone 
editing.  Many scenes and shots used in the ads get cut from the movie.

And I know of one incident with a TV series some years back where the 
promotions department forced the show to add a scene with the female 
lead in a bikini in a hot tub simply so they could use it in promos.  No 
story or script reason for it, made absolutely no sense in the episode, 
had nothing to do with what was going on in the show, but had to be 
added for the promos.  I'm not aware of any specific examples of that 
from a movie production but I would not be surprised if it has happened 
more than once.

We now return to our regularly scheduled arguments over computer games.  :)

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On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 10:17:19 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 11/4/2016 8:11 AM, Rin Stowleigh wrote:
>>
>> Think about "trailers" for example.  With a movie trailer, you are
>> seeing clips from the actual film, the marketing benefit being that
>> the clips were strategically chosen and edited from the actual footage
>> in a way that supports advertising goals.
>
>I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying but just as an aside 
>frequently you are NOT seeing actual clips from a movie in the trailers 
>or other advertising.  Many ad related materials are put together before 
>shooting has finished (in some cases before its even begun), let alone 
>editing.  Many scenes and shots used in the ads get cut from the movie.
>
>And I know of one incident with a TV series some years back where the 
>promotions department forced the show to add a scene with the female 
>lead in a bikini in a hot tub simply so they could use it in promos.  No 
>story or script reason for it, made absolutely no sense in the episode, 
>had nothing to do with what was going on in the show, but had to be 
>added for the promos.  I'm not aware of any specific examples of that 
>from a movie production but I would not be surprised if it has happened 
>more than once.
>
>We now return to our regularly scheduled arguments over computer games.  :)

I don't doubt that you're correct, and I can't comment on TV series
because I watch so few of them, but in all the films I've seen over
the decades, I cannot recall a single instance of seeing something in
a movie trailer that was not in the movie itself (and many times I've
watched the release trailer after having seen the film).

I have seen that done with movie posters.  One classic example that
comes to mind was the Walther LP53 (long barrel air pistol) that was
used in James Bond movie posters but never in the actual movies.

But, while I've heard of it done with movie footage I haven't
experienced it myself.

On Fri, 04 Nov 2016 14:12:45 -0400, Rin Stowleigh
<rstow...@nevrhadgmail.com> wrote:

>I don't doubt that you're correct, and I can't comment on TV series
>because I watch so few of them, but in all the films I've seen over
>the decades, I cannot recall a single instance of seeing something in
>a movie trailer that was not in the movie itself (and many times I've
>watched the release trailer after having seen the film).

I have seen this at least once. I remember a scene in a Terminator 2
trailer where Sarah Connor asks, 'can it be destroyed?' to which
Arnold said 'unknown'. I never saw that scene in the movie,  not even
in the extended edition.

I do think this a good move by Steam though. Thanks for the link.

Rin Stowleigh <rstow...@nevrhadgmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>
>I think this sort of thing change by Valve is good for gaming in
>general.  I'd really rather see some hefty legal fines for fradulent
>advertisement, but this is a step in the right direction.
>
>https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/238888-valve-crack-fake-screenshots-steam
>
>The gaming industry has seemed to have some sort of immunity with
>regard to fair commerce practices for a very long time.
>
>Think about "trailers" for example.  With a movie trailer, you are
>seeing clips from the actual film,

Bullshit!

Trailers routinely show scenes that are not in the movie they are
supposedly portraying.

Sometimes it's a scene or part of a scene cut for pacing or for the
total length of the movie.

Other times the trailer footage is from an earlier draft of the script
and shows something, sometimes including characters, that aren't in the
movie at all - the beancounters just figure "It's exciting, it's
interesting looking, we paid to film this lets get something out of it,
who cares if it's actually in the movie if it gets people in seats."

See
http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/trailer-scenes-never-made-movie-2/
[Point Break, The Saint, The Amazing Spider-Man, The Incredible Hulk,
Terminator Salvation, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Vanilla Sky, Star Trek,
Evil Dead, Quantum of Solace, The Transporter, Planet of the Apes, R. I.
P. D., Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back, Soldier, Superman
Returns, The Avengers, Iron Man 2, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, Predators,
Black Christmas, The Golden Compass , Paranormal Activity 3, The Bourne
Legacy, Shaft]

Googling will no doubt turn up dozens, if not hundreds, of other
examples of trailers containing scenes, dialog and characters that
aren't in the movies they are supposed to represent.


They'll never get called on it though, because the MPAA has enough money
to buy Senators and Congress-critters to make legislation that is
beneficial to them and not the consumers.

Bribe: spelled "Campaign Contribution".

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On 2016-11-04, Rin Stowleigh <rstow...@nevrhadgmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think this sort of thing change by Valve is good for gaming in
> general.  I'd really rather see some hefty legal fines for fradulent
> advertisement, but this is a step in the right direction.
>
> https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/238888-valve-crack-fake-screenshots-steam

This is easily circumvented by including the teaser trailer as an
unlockable FMV in the game.

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