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XBox or Playstation
#696921
Author: PW
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 03:18
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And what version of either?  My web speeds are not that great and some
sports titles, especially Madden and MLB and racing titles like NASCAR
are not available for the PC. $400 for either console is pricy. I
would be hooking either to a an old Sharp HDTV.  The resolution
probably is not that special..

-pw
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696924
Author: Werner Punz
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 15:29
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Am 01.11.16 um 04:18 schrieb PW:
> And what version of either?  My web speeds are not that great and some
> sports titles, especially Madden and MLB and racing titles like NASCAR
> are not available for the PC. $400 for either console is pricy. I
> would be hooking either to a an old Sharp HDTV.  The resolution
> probably is not that special..
>
> -pw
>
Actually it really comes down to games preferences, simply check out 
which exclusives each platform has and then buy the one you prefer.
I must say if I hadn´t have already a PS4 (which recently broke down on 
me so PS4 Pro here I come) I would consider to wait at least another 
year when the XBONE Scorpio comes out and then decide later.

The plus sides of the PS4
is
really interesting exclusives
Downside no UHD Blu Ray in the forseeable future and no backwards 
compatibility ( bought a second hand PS3 for that)

Plus side of the XBONE:
UHD Blu Ray
Backwards compatibility

Downside
It has less interesting exclusives and 80% of those are now being ported 
to the PC.

Genereally in the long run a console unless you go second hand in 
everything is more expensive than a PC.
You end up with cheaper hardware but spend more on the games and you 
have to play for online play as well.
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696923
Author: PW
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 23:30
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:29:41 +0100, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:

>Am 01.11.16 um 04:18 schrieb PW:
>> And what version of either?  My web speeds are not that great and some
>> sports titles, especially Madden and MLB and racing titles like NASCAR
>> are not available for the PC. $400 for either console is pricy. I
>> would be hooking either to a an old Sharp HDTV.  The resolution
>> probably is not that special..
>>
>> -pw
>>
>Actually it really comes down to games preferences, simply check out 
>which exclusives each platform has and then buy the one you prefer.
>I must say if I hadn´t have already a PS4 (which recently broke down on 
>me so PS4 Pro here I come) I would consider to wait at least another 
>year when the XBONE Scorpio comes out and then decide later.
>
>The plus sides of the PS4
>is
>really interesting exclusives
>Downside no UHD Blu Ray in the forseeable future and no backwards 
>compatibility ( bought a second hand PS3 for that)
>
>Plus side of the XBONE:
>UHD Blu Ray
>Backwards compatibility
>
>Downside
>It has less interesting exclusives and 80% of those are now being ported 
>to the PC.
>
>Genereally in the long run a console unless you go second hand in 
>everything is more expensive than a PC.
>You end up with cheaper hardware but spend more on the games and you 
>have to play for online play as well.
>


*---

Thank you Werner.  I guess I will wait a bit.

-paul
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696910
Author: rri... Ross Ridge
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 19:01
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PW  <emailad...@ifIremember.com> wrote:
>And what version of either?  My web speeds are not that great and some
>sports titles, especially Madden and MLB and racing titles like NASCAR
>are not available for the PC. $400 for either console is pricy. I
>would be hooking either to a an old Sharp HDTV.  The resolution
>probably is not that special..

The PlayStation 4 is a bit faster than Xbox One, but it's also usually a
bit more expensive.  I'd say it comes down to the games you want to play
and the controller you like.  One advantage of the XB1 controller is that
while you can use both with a PC, the XB1 controller will be recognized
as an Xbox 360 controller by most games, while the PS4 controller may
require remapping buttons and special software to trick the game into
thinking its a Xbox 360 controller.

The PS4 has more games that are only available on that platform, and not
on the XB1 or the PC.  A good example of a PlayStation exclusive would
be MLB: The Show 16, which makes the PS4 your only option if you want
to play a modern MLB game.  There's no alternative available on the XB1.

There aren't that many games available for the XB1 that aren't also
available on the PS4 or PC. Though the XB1 does have some "exclusives"
that require Windows 10 to play on the PC, like the Forza racing games.
The biggest truly exclusive XB1 game is Sunset Overdrive.  Many of the
rest of the actual exclusives are Kinect games.

Complicating matters is the fact that fact both Sony and Microsoft are
coming out with newer faster versions of these consoles.  Microsoft's
"Project Scorpio" isn't coming until next year (note that this is not
the new Xbox One S, which is a streamlined Xbox One with only a few new
features), while the upgraded PlayStation 4 Pro is coming out on the 10th.

You might want to check out the Black Friday sales to see if either
console comes bundled with a game or two you actually want to play. 

					Ross Ridge

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Re: XBox or Playstation
#696908
Author: PW
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 03:39
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On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 19:01:00 +0000 (UTC), rri...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
(Ross Ridge) wrote:

>PW  <emailad...@ifIremember.com> wrote:
>>And what version of either?  My web speeds are not that great and some
>>sports titles, especially Madden and MLB and racing titles like NASCAR
>>are not available for the PC. $400 for either console is pricy. I
>>would be hooking either to a an old Sharp HDTV.  The resolution
>>probably is not that special..
>
>The PlayStation 4 is a bit faster than Xbox One, but it's also usually a
>bit more expensive.  I'd say it comes down to the games you want to play
>and the controller you like.  One advantage of the XB1 controller is that
>while you can use both with a PC, the XB1 controller will be recognized
>as an Xbox 360 controller by most games, while the PS4 controller may
>require remapping buttons and special software to trick the game into
>thinking its a Xbox 360 controller.
>
>The PS4 has more games that are only available on that platform, and not
>on the XB1 or the PC.  A good example of a PlayStation exclusive would
>be MLB: The Show 16, which makes the PS4 your only option if you want
>to play a modern MLB game.  There's no alternative available on the XB1.
>
>There aren't that many games available for the XB1 that aren't also
>available on the PS4 or PC. Though the XB1 does have some "exclusives"
>that require Windows 10 to play on the PC, like the Forza racing games.
>The biggest truly exclusive XB1 game is Sunset Overdrive.  Many of the
>rest of the actual exclusives are Kinect games.
>
>Complicating matters is the fact that fact both Sony and Microsoft are
>coming out with newer faster versions of these consoles.  Microsoft's
>"Project Scorpio" isn't coming until next year (note that this is not
>the new Xbox One S, which is a streamlined Xbox One with only a few new
>features), while the upgraded PlayStation 4 Pro is coming out on the 10th.
>
>You might want to check out the Black Friday sales to see if either
>console comes bundled with a game or two you actually want to play. 
>
>					Ross Ridge


*----

Thank you Ross!
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696914
Author: Werner Punz
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 22:38
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Am 02.11.16 um 00:30 schrieb PW:

>
> Thank you Werner.  I guess I will wait a bit.
>
Hi Paul

the third, El Cheapo option would be simply to buy the console shortly 
after its lifetime is over.

Every console has after the end of its lifetime around 10-15 exklusives 
which never make it to the PC and which are worthwhile playing.
The good thing doing this is, you can get everything for a minimum 
amount of money, because most people try to get rid of the old hardware 
to make room for the new one.
If you dont buy it in an overpriced shop like Gamestop, you might end up 
on a bugdet this way.

You will end up with the console for around 100-150 bucks with some 
games already thrown in and the rest of the games you want will go 
likely second hand with 5-10 bucks per game.

I recently did that with a PS3 slim, and ended up spending around 200 
bucks for a full collection and the console.
(everything bought over second hand sources but nothing from Gamestop 
which I personally think is a ripoff)
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696913
Author: Justisaur
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 15:48
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On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 3:38:03 PM UTC-7, Werner Punz wrote:
> Am 02.11.16 um 00:30 schrieb PW:
> 
> >
> > Thank you Werner.  I guess I will wait a bit.
> >
> Hi Paul
> 
> the third, El Cheapo option would be simply to buy the console shortly 
> after its lifetime is over.
> 
> Every console has after the end of its lifetime around 10-15 exklusives 
> which never make it to the PC and which are worthwhile playing.
> The good thing doing this is, you can get everything for a minimum 
> amount of money, because most people try to get rid of the old hardware 
> to make room for the new one.
> If you dont buy it in an overpriced shop like Gamestop, you might end up 
> on a bugdet this way.
> 
> You will end up with the console for around 100-150 bucks with some 
> games already thrown in and the rest of the games you want will go 
> likely second hand with 5-10 bucks per game.
> 
> I recently did that with a PS3 slim, and ended up spending around 200 
> bucks for a full collection and the console.
> (everything bought over second hand sources but nothing from Gamestop 
> which I personally think is a ripoff)

I bought an xbox 360 at the beginning of the year for my son that way $100 came with GTA IV & V, Sleeping Dogs, Fallout IV, and a couple others (I have GTA IV & Fallout IV on the PC already so wasn't really  much of a bonus in that respect) Quite a few of the games were more impressive than I would've thought for a console.  

I did the same with a Wii the year before, but have been pretty disappointed with the games on it, there's really only one game my son likes, and neither me or my wife have found any we like.

I would warn though that pretty much all the good games are more expensive than they are on the PC - I've gotten some of the Lego games my son plays on Steam sales for as low as $5, but can't find most of them for less than $20 on the Xbox, some quite a bit more. That adds up quickly if you play may games.  Some of the really good obscure games that aren't on the PC actually go up in price too.  I remember there was a PS2 game I wanted but it was sitting around $100 last I looked.  Of course you can recoup some of that reselling/trading games once done with them.  

It's also a heck of a lot easier/convenient to just buy the electronic version of games on steam etc. (at least if you have broadband.) and nice not to have to constantly change and store disks.  With all the freebies going on easy to pick up plenty of older games, and demos seem to be making a comeback.  

I understand the Xbox is going more toward electronic distribution, but what games I've wanted so far have been mostly unavailable or significantly more expensive that way.

A full good gaming computer will cost around $1000 without going overboard, but will have a much longer life.  the cpu I've got was released 9 years ago, though I am really feeling the need to update mine, I've never had anywhere near that kind of life from a console.  Of course I've updated my gpu 3 times in that period, and that alone costs nearly what a console does.  Computer advances have been slowing though, and a new one will probably last even longer before updating.  

The other advantage of the computer is you can do quite a bit more with it than game.

- Justisaur
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696922
Author: Werner Punz
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 16:37
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Am 07.11.16 um 16:48 schrieb Justisaur:

> I would warn though that pretty much all the good games are more expensive than they are on the PC - I've gotten some of the Lego games my son plays on Steam sales for as low as $5, but can't find most of them for less than $20 on the Xbox, some quite a bit more. That adds up quickly if you play may games.  Some of the really good obscure games that aren't on the PC actually go up in price too.  I remember there was a PS2 game I wanted but it was sitting around $100 last I looked.  Of course you can recoup some of that reselling/trading games once done with them.
>
Mhh weird, at least if you buy the disk version most of the PS3 games 
end up around 5-10 bucks (euros that is in my case) from private second 
hand sources, could be that the XBOX games are more expensive due to the 
back compatibility the XBONE provides, driving second hand prices up.
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696909
Author: Justisaur
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 16:51
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On 11/7/2016 8:37 AM, Werner Punz wrote:
> Am 07.11.16 um 16:48 schrieb Justisaur:
>
>> I would warn though that pretty much all the good games are more
>> expensive than they are on the PC - I've gotten some of the Lego games
>> my son plays on Steam sales for as low as $5, but can't find most of
>> them for less than $20 on the Xbox, some quite a bit more. That adds
>> up quickly if you play may games.  Some of the really good obscure
>> games that aren't on the PC actually go up in price too.  I remember
>> there was a PS2 game I wanted but it was sitting around $100 last I
>> looked.  Of course you can recoup some of that reselling/trading games
>> once done with them.
>>
> Mhh weird, at least if you buy the disk version most of the PS3 games
> end up around 5-10 bucks (euros that is in my case) from private second
> hand sources, could be that the XBOX games are more expensive due to the
> back compatibility the XBONE provides, driving second hand prices up.
>
>

You can find plenty of 2nd hand games at $5-$10 for the Xbox, but 
they're mostly bad games, most of the good ones seem to hold their value.

I just found out you need an Xbox gold account to play online 
multiplayer in anything last night when I was trying to get in PVP on 
the The Crew on the Xbox at $9.99 a month (or $60 a year, possibly less 
hunting for deals on cards).  I was pissed as you can play The Crew 
online on the PC for free.  I decided to see how it went as the first 
month is free, and they give away a few older games each month and have 
discounts on digital games.  There's nothing I'm interested in free this 
month, though they do have Monkey Island which is perhaps the best point 
& click adventure game, but I have that on the PC and played it a long 
long time ago, it certainly predates the Xbox by a long time.

So if you plan to play online multiplayer, make sure to add the gold 
subscription in your calculations of cost, which in my case is really 
tipping it back to the PC again.

- Justisaur
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696919
Author: PW
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 18:41
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 08:51:09 -0800, Justisaur <just...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 11/7/2016 8:37 AM, Werner Punz wrote:
>> Am 07.11.16 um 16:48 schrieb Justisaur:
>>
>>> I would warn though that pretty much all the good games are more
>>> expensive than they are on the PC - I've gotten some of the Lego games
>>> my son plays on Steam sales for as low as $5, but can't find most of
>>> them for less than $20 on the Xbox, some quite a bit more. That adds
>>> up quickly if you play may games.  Some of the really good obscure
>>> games that aren't on the PC actually go up in price too.  I remember
>>> there was a PS2 game I wanted but it was sitting around $100 last I
>>> looked.  Of course you can recoup some of that reselling/trading games
>>> once done with them.
>>>
>> Mhh weird, at least if you buy the disk version most of the PS3 games
>> end up around 5-10 bucks (euros that is in my case) from private second
>> hand sources, could be that the XBOX games are more expensive due to the
>> back compatibility the XBONE provides, driving second hand prices up.
>>
>>
>
>You can find plenty of 2nd hand games at $5-$10 for the Xbox, but 
>they're mostly bad games, most of the good ones seem to hold their value.
>
>I just found out you need an Xbox gold account to play online 
>multiplayer in anything last night when I was trying to get in PVP on 
>the The Crew on the Xbox at $9.99 a month (or $60 a year, possibly less 
>hunting for deals on cards).  I was pissed as you can play The Crew 
>online on the PC for free.  I decided to see how it went as the first 
>month is free, and they give away a few older games each month and have 
>discounts on digital games.  There's nothing I'm interested in free this 
>month, though they do have Monkey Island which is perhaps the best point 
>& click adventure game, but I have that on the PC and played it a long 
>long time ago, it certainly predates the Xbox by a long time.
>
>So if you plan to play online multiplayer, make sure to add the gold 
>subscription in your calculations of cost, which in my case is really 
>tipping it back to the PC again.
>
>- Justisaur


*---

Thank you. Good points.  I only play a few MP games once in a while. I
would buy the XBOX or PS mostly to play Madden and a MLB game.
Probably some others that I cannot get on the PC but if I have to
download them I would not do so.  I'd like to play Battefield 1 but I
am not going to leave my PC up running for a couple nights to do so.

-pw
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696912
Author: rri... Ross Ridge
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 22:33
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Justisaur  <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I just found out you need an Xbox gold account to play online 
>multiplayer in anything last night when I was trying to get in PVP on 
>the The Crew on the Xbox at $9.99 a month (or $60 a year, possibly less 
>hunting for deals on cards).  I was pissed as you can play The Crew 
>online on the PC for free.  I decided to see how it went as the first 
>month is free, and they give away a few older games each month and have 
>discounts on digital games.

Both the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One also require a subscription fee
to play online, but the PlayStation 3 doesn't.  Also note that the "free"
games you get are tied to your subscription.  Once you cancel your Xbox
Live Gold (or PlayStation Plus) suscription you can no longer play those
games until you resubscribe.  You do get to keep any games you bought
on discount however.

					Ross Ridge

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Re: XBox or Playstation
#696916
Author: Spalls Hurgenson
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:07
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 22:33:03 +0000 (UTC), rri...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
(Ross Ridge) wrote:


>Both the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One also require a subscription fee
>to play online, but the PlayStation 3 doesn't.  Also note that the "free"
>games you get are tied to your subscription.  Once you cancel your Xbox
>Live Gold (or PlayStation Plus) suscription you can no longer play those
>games until you resubscribe.  You do get to keep any games you bought
>on discount however.


The latter is not correct, at least not for free games on the XBox
360. If you have an XBox Gold (paid) subscription, get a free game,
and later let your subscription lapse to Silver (unpaid), you can
still continue to play any of those games on your consoles harddrive
without limitation.

I believe there are issues if your harddrive dies or you get a
replacement XBox360 (and perhaps if you delete the game from your
current HDD and want to re-download/re-install) but so long as the
games are on your console already, it doesn't matter if you are a paid
or free subscriber.

Any games you actually /paid/ for remain yours regardless of your
subscription status. Of course, any multiplayer aspects of those games
- paid or free -  are useless if you aren't gold, but that's not of
particular concern to me ;-)

(I just tested on my own XBox360 and yup, all those freebie
games-for-gold games I downloaded are still playable, despite the fact
I stopped paying for a Gold subs two or three years ago)

Microsoft may have changed things with the XBoxOne but at least with
the XB360, you can keep playing those free games even if you don't pay
for the Gold subscription anymore.
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696926
Author: Werner Punz
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:37
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Am 08.11.16 um 17:51 schrieb Justisaur:
> On 11/7/2016 8:37 AM, Werner Punz wrote:
>> Am 07.11.16 um 16:48 schrieb Justisaur:
>>
>>> I would warn though that pretty much all the good games are more
>>> expensive than they are on the PC - I've gotten some of the Lego games
>>> my son plays on Steam sales for as low as $5, but can't find most of
>>> them for less than $20 on the Xbox, some quite a bit more. That adds
>>> up quickly if you play may games.  Some of the really good obscure
>>> games that aren't on the PC actually go up in price too.  I remember
>>> there was a PS2 game I wanted but it was sitting around $100 last I
>>> looked.  Of course you can recoup some of that reselling/trading games
>>> once done with them.
>>>
>> Mhh weird, at least if you buy the disk version most of the PS3 games
>> end up around 5-10 bucks (euros that is in my case) from private second
>> hand sources, could be that the XBOX games are more expensive due to the
>> back compatibility the XBONE provides, driving second hand prices up.
>>
>>
>
> You can find plenty of 2nd hand games at $5-$10 for the Xbox, but
> they're mostly bad games, most of the good ones seem to hold their value.
>
Then it is actually different to the PS3, even the good PS3 games go for 
5-10 from private sources.

As for multiplayer, it is free on the PS3, on the PS4 however you also 
have to pay for psplus.
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696915
Author: rri... Ross Ridge
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2016 19:16
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Spalls Hurgenson  <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The latter is not correct, at least not for free games on the XBox
>360. If you have an XBox Gold (paid) subscription, get a free game,
>and later let your subscription lapse to Silver (unpaid), you can
>still continue to play any of those games on your consoles harddrive
>without limitation.

Oops, you're right, Games for Gold on the Xbox 360 is an exception, you
do get to keep the free games when your Xbox Live Gold account lapses.
With Games for Gold on the Xbox One though you do need to keep your
Gold account active to play the "free" games.  The same is true for
Sony's Instant Game Collection for the both of the PlayStation 3 and
PlayStation 4, they require an active PlayStation Plus membership.
In both cases you don't lose the games permanently, you can play them
again once you starting paying the subscription fee again.

At least that's what Wikipedia says, I don't have any personal experience
with these programs.

	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_with_Gold_games#Xbox_One
	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Network#Instant_Game_Collection

					Ross Ridge

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Re: XBox or Playstation
#696925
Author: PW
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 19:59
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 21:18:21 -0600, PW
<emailad...@ifIremember.com> wrote:

>And what version of either?  My web speeds are not that great and some
>sports titles, especially Madden and MLB and racing titles like NASCAR
>are not available for the PC. $400 for either console is pricy. I
>would be hooking either to a an old Sharp HDTV.  The resolution
>probably is not that special..
>
>-pw


*----

Well, I messed up.  I assumed that the XBox One S had a MLB game
available for it.  I see nothing at Amazon for it.  I guess I should
have purchased a PS4.  Too late now.  I went for the Madden NFL combo
but baseball is my #1.  Oh well.

-pw
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696917
Author: Dimensional Traveler
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 21:17
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On 12/22/2016 11:59 AM, PW wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 21:18:21 -0600, PW
> <emailad...@ifIremember.com> wrote:
>
>> And what version of either?  My web speeds are not that great and some
>> sports titles, especially Madden and MLB and racing titles like NASCAR
>> are not available for the PC. $400 for either console is pricy. I
>> would be hooking either to a an old Sharp HDTV.  The resolution
>> probably is not that special..
>>
>> -pw
>
>
> *----
>
> Well, I messed up.  I assumed that the XBox One S had a MLB game
> available for it.  I see nothing at Amazon for it.  I guess I should
> have purchased a PS4.  Too late now.  I went for the Madden NFL combo
> but baseball is my #1.  Oh well.
>
> -pw
>
Judging by the commercials you are supposed to buy a XBox One S so you 
can refight WWI.  :)

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Re: XBox or Playstation
#696927
Author: rri... Ross Ridge
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 06:54
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PW  <emailad...@ifIremember.com> wrote:
>Well, I messed up.  I assumed that the XBox One S had a MLB game
>available for it.  I see nothing at Amazon for it.  I guess I should
>have purchased a PS4.  Too late now.  I went for the Madden NFL combo
>but baseball is my #1.  Oh well.

Well, I did mention that only the PlayStion 4 had a MLB game, but I
guess I wasn't as clear about that as I could've been.

				Ross Ridge

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Re: XBox or Playstation
#696931
Author: Werner Punz
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 18:19
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Am 23.12.16 um 07:54 schrieb Ross Ridge:
> PW  <emailad...@ifIremember.com> wrote:
>> Well, I messed up.  I assumed that the XBox One S had a MLB game
>> available for it.  I see nothing at Amazon for it.  I guess I should
>> have purchased a PS4.  Too late now.  I went for the Madden NFL combo
>> but baseball is my #1.  Oh well.
>
> Well, I did mention that only the PlayStion 4 had a MLB game, but I
> guess I wasn't as clear about that as I could've been.
>
> 				Ross Ridge
>
Generally the PS4 has a bigger variety of exclusives, while Microsofts 
exclusive portfolio basically consists of shooters, mini games and 
racing games. The games is pretty much the area where sony has 
everything done right while Microsoft has basically cut down on studios 
which produce exclusive games, big time. (Sold off the Halo developoers 
closed the studio which produced the Fable series, relegated rare to a 
mini game producer)
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696928
Author: PW
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 19:33
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 06:54:28 +0000 (UTC), rri...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
(Ross Ridge) wrote:

>PW  <emailad...@ifIremember.com> wrote:
>>Well, I messed up.  I assumed that the XBox One S had a MLB game
>>available for it.  I see nothing at Amazon for it.  I guess I should
>>have purchased a PS4.  Too late now.  I went for the Madden NFL combo
>>but baseball is my #1.  Oh well.
>
>Well, I did mention that only the PlayStion 4 had a MLB game, but I
>guess I wasn't as clear about that as I could've been.
>
>				Ross Ridge


*--

The package has already been picked up by the carrier. So I cannot
cancel my order. I guess I could refuse it.  It's been about two weeks
since I placed the order at Amazon and is not expected to be delivered
for another week or two.

I did not know about the subscription crap.  

Whatever happened to the MLB sancitioned game?  Did that franchise get
cancelled?

-pw
Re: XBox or Playstation
#696929
Author: rri... Ross Ridge
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 05:53
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PW  <emailad...@ifIremember.com> wrote:
>The package has already been picked up by the carrier. So I cannot
>cancel my order. I guess I could refuse it.  It's been about two weeks
>since I placed the order at Amazon and is not expected to be delivered
>for another week or two.

You can probably return it to Amazon unopenned for a refund, though
you'd have to pay to ship it back.  You might want to contact Amazon
and see what they say.

>I did not know about the subscription crap.  

If you mean Xbox Live Gold then it's only for playing multiplayer
games online.  Unfortunately the PlayStation 4 is no different here,
you also need to pay a monthly subscription in order to play online.

>Whatever happened to the MLB sancitioned game?  Did that franchise get
>cancelled?

There used to be three officially licenced MLB video game series: Sony's
MLB: The Show, 2K Games' Major Leage Baseball 2K, and Electronic Arts's
MVP Baseball.  EA stopped making MLB licenced games in 2005 when 2K
games negotiated an "exclusive" licence to make the games.  It was only
exclusive for third-party publishers though, the deal still allowed
console manufacturer to publish MLB games for their own platforms.
In 2013, when that deal expired, 2K games decided not to renew it,
and so stopped making baseball games.  That left Sony's MLB: The Show
the only MLB licenced baseball game available, and as it's made by Sony
it's only available for their consoles.

The basic problem seems to be the baseball games simply aren't popular
enough, otherwise either 2K Games or Electronic Arts would probably
still be making them.

If you're really desparate to play baseball on the Xbox One, the MLB
league itself makes their own video game, RBI Baseball.  Unfortunately
it's essentially a mobile game with crude graphics and limited gameplay.
It's availabe for the Xbox One as well the PlayStation 4, Steam, iOS
and Android.

					Ross Ridge

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Re: XBox or Playstation
#696930
Author: Werner Punz
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 06:21
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Am 24.12.16 um 06:53 schrieb Ross Ridge:

> The basic problem seems to be the baseball games simply aren't popular
> enough, otherwise either 2K Games or Electronic Arts would probably
> still be making them.
>
Could be, baseball has a somewhat limited audience on a worldwide scale, 
definitely less possible customers than american football (which also 
has fans in Europe) and definitely way less than Soccer which is popular 
on a worldwide scale (with a limited audience in the US)
But I personally think there is another reason.

> If you're really desparate to play baseball on the Xbox One, the MLB
> league itself makes their own video game, RBI Baseball.  Unfortunately
> it's essentially a mobile game with crude graphics and limited gameplay.
> It's availabe for the Xbox One as well the PlayStation 4, Steam, iOS
> and Android.
>
Could be that they are holding on the license themselves instead of 
selling it off to some better developers to cash in more money.
After all starving fans will buy everything.
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