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Robin Bowen (rbo...@powerup.com.au) wrote:
:  Greetings ...

:  I cant get ROTT to work ! I have 4 mb memory... 3072k is Xms/Ems or whatever
:  and 384k is shadow ram <or something> sorry... but memory always get me !
:  ANYWAY ! I can't get ROTT to work .. it keeps saying i need 80kb more ...
:  I don;t know what to do .. this is using a clean boot ... o nothing is
:  loaded ... I got it to work under Windows ... but with no sound...

You're not alone.  With a clean boot (absolutely nothing loaded, not even
a mouse driver!) I'm still 32K short.  

-- 
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"In sports, it's not who wins or loses;       |  Mike Carmack
 it's how drunk you get."                     |  mcarmack@freenet.
                        - Homer Simpson       |           columbus.oh.us

In article <43412k$6...@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Michael Carmack) writes:
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>Subject: Re: ROTT Mem Probs ?
>Date: 12 Sep 1995 09:13:56 -0400
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>Robin Bowen (rbo...@powerup.com.au) wrote:
>:  Greetings ...

>:  I cant get ROTT to work ! I have 4 mb memory... 3072k is Xms/Ems or whatever
>:  and 384k is shadow ram <or something> sorry... but memory always get me !
>:  ANYWAY ! I can't get ROTT to work .. it keeps saying i need 80kb more ...
>:  I don;t know what to do .. this is using a clean boot ... o nothing is
>:  loaded ... I got it to work under Windows ... but with no sound...

>You're not alone.  With a clean boot (absolutely nothing loaded, not even
>a mouse driver!) I'm still 32K short.  

I got the shareware version of ROTT to work on my old DX/33 4 Mb RAM.  
Basically, I remarked all of the TSRs and drivers I didn't need, and changed 
the EMM386 line to give me about 3000k EMS memory.  I forget offhand what I 
wrote exactly, but if anyone wants to know, I can post my config.sys and 
autoexec.bat files (its on my old computer, currently not connected, or I 
would post it anyway).

Albert Ihochi

>-- 
>========================================================================
>"In sports, it's not who wins or loses;       |  Mike Carmack
> it's how drunk you get."                     |  mcarmack@freenet.
>                        - Homer Simpson       |           columbus.oh.us

In article <43412k$6...@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us>, mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Michael Carmack) writes:
|>Robin Bowen (rbo...@powerup.com.au) wrote:
|>:  Greetings ...
|>
|>:  I cant get ROTT to work ! I have 4 mb memory... 3072k is Xms/Ems or whatever
|>:  and 384k is shadow ram <or something> sorry... but memory always get me !
|>:  ANYWAY ! I can't get ROTT to work .. it keeps saying i need 80kb more ...
|>:  I don;t know what to do .. this is using a clean boot ... o nothing is
|>:  loaded ... I got it to work under Windows ... but with no sound...
|>
|>You're not alone.  With a clean boot (absolutely nothing loaded, not even
|>a mouse driver!) I'm still 32K short.  
|>
|>-- 

Sorry if I cannot be direct help here since I am running ROTT with
a bit more memory under Win95 but try the following.

Get version 1.3 if you do not have it.

Perhaps you are using a memory manager that is interfering
with the protected mode memory mamagement.

And from the FAQ...
How do I make more memory available for RotT?
  The best way around this is to "boot clean."  This means to boot your
  system without loading any unnecessary memory resident programs.  The
  easiest way to do this is to create a bootable floppy disk according to
  the instructions in your DOS manual (see the FORMAT /S command) and
  create a file called CONFIG.SYS and a file called AUTOEXEC.BAT on that
  disk.  Please refer to your DOS manual for instructions on creating these
  files.

  These files should contain the following lines:

   CONFIG.SYS
   ==========
   FILES=30
   BUFFERS=30
   STACKS=9,256
   <if your sound card requires a line in config.sys, put it here>
   <if you use disk compression, make sure to load that driver>
   <if you require a driver to access your hard drive, make sure to use it>

   AUTOEXEC.BAT
   ============
   @echo off
   <your path line>
   <your prompt line>
   MOUSE <if you play with a mouse>
   SET BLASTER=<see section on SET BLASTER for more help on this line>

  The <your path line> and <your prompt line> items in the sample
  AUTOEXEC.BAT file refer to the lines that start with the words PATH and
  PROMPT in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file that is on your C:  drive.  These lines
  are optional, but including them will make navigating your hard drive a
  little easier.

  If you have DOS 5, you will need to create a boot disk and make
  CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files, using the above examples.  If you have
  DOS 6 or higher, you have two ways of booting clean without the need for
  a boot disk.

  For DOS 6 and higher, the fastest way is to reboot your computer and
  watch for a message that says "Starting MS-DOS" (IBM versions will say
  either "Starting PC DOS" or "Starting IBM DOS").  When you see this
  message, press your F8 function key.  You will then be prompted to
  confirm each line of your current CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files.
  This will allow you to temporarily turn off the programs that you do not
  need or that may be causing problems.  ONLY ANSWER "YES" TO THE LINES
  SHOWN ABOVE AND THE "OK to process AUTOEXEC.BAT?"  QUESTION.  When
  finished, you will be left at a plain C:\> prompt.

  NOTE:  Pressing the Left Shift or F5 function key at the "Starting
         MS-DOS" prompt will not work properly.  ROTT requires at least
         30 available "file handles" to operate properly.  This is defined
         by the FILES=30 statement in your CONFIG.SYS file.  If you bypass
         your CONFIG.SYS file completely by pressing Left Shift or F5, you
         are stuck with the DOS default of 8 file handles.  You will
         experience errors if you attempt to run the game this way.

  If you are more familiar with DOS, we strongly recommend that you set up
  a multi-boot option.  These newer versions of DOS allow you to set up
  multiple boot configuration sections in your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT
  files, mostly eliminating the need for boot disks.  Again, please consult
  your DOS manual for instructions on how to create a boot disk, or a
  multi-boot configuration using the parameters stated above.

  ROTT is a protected mode program, and it does not require the services of
  such memory managers as QEMM, EMM386, etc.  Please read the section on
  protected mode programs for more information.
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In <433ph6$3...@enterprise.powerup.com.au> rbo...@powerup.com.au (Robin
Bowen) writes: 
>
> Greetings ...
>
> I cant get ROTT to work ! I have 4 mb memory... 3072k is Xms/Ems or
whatever
> and 384k is shadow ram <or something> sorry... but memory always get
me !
> ANYWAY ! I can't get ROTT to work .. it keeps saying i need 80kb more
..
> I don;t know what to do .. this is using a clean boot ... o nothing
is
> loaded ... I got it to work under Windows ... but with no sound...
>
> any help is appreciated ... Thanks
>
>--
> << Robin Bowen - Brisbane,Australia    | "No brain, no pain"       
>>
> << rbo...@enterpise.powerup.com.au     | "He's dead Jim ..."       
>>
> << IRC nick - Online                   | "My kingdom for a 28,800" 
>>
>
>
>
I had the same problems until I found the fix for this.  There is a
patch for ROTT that is designed to allow PC's with only 4 meg of RAM to
run.  I downloaded it fromCompuServe's Action Forum Library.  I am sure
that other ftp sites would have it.  Search for ROTT  1.2   4 meg  
patch.  

In article <43412k$6...@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Michael Carmack) writes:
>From: mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Michael Carmack)
>Subject: Re: ROTT Mem Probs ?
>Date: 12 Sep 1995 09:13:56 -0400

>Robin Bowen (rbo...@powerup.com.au) wrote:
>:  Greetings ...

>:  I cant get ROTT to work ! I have 4 mb memory... 3072k is Xms/Ems or whatever
>:  and 384k is shadow ram <or something> sorry... but memory always get me !
>:  ANYWAY ! I can't get ROTT to work .. it keeps saying i need 80kb more ...
>:  I don;t know what to do .. this is using a clean boot ... o nothing is
>:  loaded ... I got it to work under Windows ... but with no sound...

>You're not alone.  With a clean boot (absolutely nothing loaded, not even
>a mouse driver!) I'm still 32K short.  

>-- 
>========================================================================
>"In sports, it's not who wins or loses;       |  Mike Carmack
> it's how drunk you get."                     |  mcarmack@freenet.
>                        - Homer Simpson       |           columbus.oh.us

Ever thought of loading the drivers in high? 
use the mem/c command to find out what
is eating up your mem. 

Good Luck :-)

P.S. You'll love rott. Get the faq.

joh...@newton.tuns.ns.ca (Presto) wrote:

>In article <43412k$6...@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Michael Carmack) writes:
>>From: mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Michael Carmack)
>>Subject: Re: ROTT Mem Probs ?
>>Date: 12 Sep 1995 09:13:56 -0400

>>Robin Bowen (rbo...@powerup.com.au) wrote:
>>:  Greetings ...

>>:  I cant get ROTT to work ! I have 4 mb memory... 3072k is Xms/Ems or whatever
>>:  and 384k is shadow ram <or something> sorry... but memory always get me !
>>:  ANYWAY ! I can't get ROTT to work .. it keeps saying i need 80kb more ...
>>:  I don;t know what to do .. this is using a clean boot ... o nothing is
>>:  loaded ... I got it to work under Windows ... but with no sound...

>>You're not alone.  With a clean boot (absolutely nothing loaded, not even
>>a mouse driver!) I'm still 32K short.  

>>-- 
>>========================================================================
>>"In sports, it's not who wins or loses;       |  Mike Carmack
>> it's how drunk you get."                     |  mcarmack@freenet.
>>                        - Homer Simpson       |           columbus.oh.us

>Ever thought of loading the drivers in high? 
>use the mem/c command to find out what
>is eating up your mem. 

>Good Luck :-)

>P.S. You'll love rott. Get the faq.

Hi Gary here
had the same problem but i sent of and got a patch disk for 4mb
machines, dont need it and if your in the uk. i can post it.
Gary
Ga...@taynet.co.uk