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In article <8B0048A.01F1...@grinder.com>, jeff.da...@grinder.com (JEFF DALLACQUA) says:
>
>I have a Nanao 340i-w 15 inch monitor for nearly 2 years. It's served me
>pretty well, but I'd like to sell it and save up my pennies for a 17
>inch monitor. Can anybody give me a recommendation for a really good 17
>inch monitor? I heard Nokia and NEC are good brands. Is this true? Can
>you also give me a model number?

PC Magazine,9/12/95 edition, ranks 17" monitors as follows:

Editors Choice:

Home/small office: CTX 1765GMe, est street price $649

Business Use: Samsung SyncMaster 17GLi, est street price $699

CAD/Graphics: Nanao FlexScan T2 17TS, est street price $1,149

Check it out.

Brad

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     n peart

In article <8B0048A.01F1...@grinder.com>, 
jeff.da...@grinder.com (JEFF DALLACQUA) says:
>>
>>I have a Nanao 340i-w 15 inch monitor for nearly 2 years. It's served me
>>pretty well, but I'd like to sell it and save up my pennies for a 17
>>inch monitor. Can anybody give me a recommendation for a really good 17
>>inch monitor? I heard Nokia and NEC are good brands. Is this true? Can
>>you also give me a model number?


Your best bet is sticking with Nanao, the best of 17" monitors!!
The FS-EX 17" is a great one.

I have a 17" Sony Multiscan 17sf with their Trinitron tube.  Excellent 
monitor with a .25 pitch.

It'll run you about $900.

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In article <41vso6$t...@news.cc.utah.edu>, barms...@park.admin.utah.edu (barmstrong) writes:
> In article <8B0048A.01F1...@grinder.com>, jeff.da...@grinder.com (JEFF DALLACQUA) says:
> >
> >I have a Nanao 340i-w 15 inch monitor for nearly 2 years. It's served me
> >pretty well, but I'd like to sell it and save up my pennies for a 17
> >inch monitor. Can anybody give me a recommendation for a really good 17
> >inch monitor? I heard Nokia and NEC are good brands. Is this true? Can
> >you also give me a model number?
> 
> PC Magazine,9/12/95 edition, ranks 17" monitors as follows:
> 
> Editors Choice:
> 
> Home/small office: CTX 1765GMe, est street price $649
> 
> Business Use: Samsung SyncMaster 17GLi, est street price $699
> 
> CAD/Graphics: Nanao FlexScan T2 17TS, est street price $1,149

Idek/Iiyama Visionmaster 17" - Mmmmmmmm.  I'm going to get one in the
next few weeks.  They're so nice you just want to lick them :-)

It's even nicer than the dodgy 21" I have in front of me now.

Bye,

Martin.

IF You Can Afford A Good Monitor get A NEC.
You Wont Go Wrong There.

barms...@park.admin.utah.edu (barmstrong) wrote:

>PC Magazine,9/12/95 edition, ranks 17" monitors as follows:
>Editors Choice:
>Home/small office: CTX 1765GMe, est street price $649
>Business Use: Samsung SyncMaster 17GLi, est street price $699
>CAD/Graphics: Nanao FlexScan T2 17TS, est street price $1,149

Computer Shopper (can't remember month) rated the Mag MXP17F as one of
the top choices and it's lower-cost sibling, the DX17F is identical
except it can't display above 1280x1024.  The DX17F is $600 or so and
it kicks ass...

Phil Epstein

Matthew Fisher <m.e.f...@bnr.co.uk> wrote:

>IF You Can Afford A Good Monitor get A NEC.
>You Wont Go Wrong There.

I must disagree...I recently purchased an NEC XV17.  The colors were
beautiful, but it had a slightly darker band running down the left
hand side of the screen, it had extreme moire problems, and the top
and bottom left corners were bent up and down, respectively.  I tried
for four days to correct these problems to no avail.  I exchanged it
for another one.  The second NEC was misconverged over the entire
screen and had a dark blotch on the right hand side.  Back it went.  I
finally decided to pay the extra $$ and got a Nokia 447X.  It's just
about perfect...
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When I bought my system 18 months ago, I had my head up in the 
clouds with a NEC 17 inch professional series monitor.  It 
seemed to be the one to beat as it own year in and year out in 
the Mag's best of categories.  

However, I bought one of the earlier P90's and wanted to put my 
cash into the faster new 3.3v processor and a better video 
card.  It seemed at the time one could not have their cake and 
eat it to, at least not on my $4,000.00 USD budget.  Anyway I 
settled for the CTX1765GM against my judgement, as the previous 
CTX 14" monitor I owned was crap!  I thought I would settle 
with this 17"CTX for a short while then when I got more cash 
together I would replace it.

Boy was I wrong,  this CTX was hundreds of dollars less, had 
more screen real-estate, had all the modern front planel 
corrections, and was Energy Star and MPRII compliant.  And the 
picture quality for a monitor in this price category was 
incredible.  Matched with my Diamond Stealth64PCI Vram and 
considering it cycle rates, this combination has left nothing 
wanting.  I don't think I would need to upgrade even if someone 
dumped $2,000 bucks in my pocket.

CTX17 65GM is definetly a winner, and since I bought it, all 
kinds of awards have been earned.

/NEP ;-)


e...@netcom.com (Erik Quinn) wrote:
>Matthew Fisher <m.e.f...@bnr.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>IF You Can Afford A Good Monitor get A NEC.
>>You Wont Go Wrong There.
>
>I must disagree...I recently purchased an NEC XV17.  The colors were
>beautiful, but it had a slightly darker band running down the left
>hand side of the screen, it had extreme moire problems, and the top
>and bottom left corners were bent up and down, respectively.  I tried
>for four days to correct these problems to no avail.  I exchanged it
>for another one.  The second NEC was misconverged over the entire
>screen and had a dark blotch on the right hand side.  Back it went.  I
>finally decided to pay the extra $$ and got a Nokia 447X.  It's just
>about perfect...
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>~  Application THINK has caused a General Protection Fault in module  ?
>?     BRAIN. If you choose Ignore, you may lose all motor control.    ~
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>
>

In article <DE4HD...@cee.hw.ac.uk>, cee...@cee.hw.ac.uk (Martin Hay) says:
>Idek/Iiyama Visionmaster 17" - Mmmmmmmm.  I'm going to get one in the
>next few weeks.  They're so nice you just want to lick them :-)
>
>It's even nicer than the dodgy 21" I have in front of me now.
>Bye,
>Martin.

I'll second that, i've had it the Visionmaster 17" for over a year now, 
and it's great.

Frank.

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>>>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 1995 12:00:55 GMT, cee...@cee.hw.ac.uk (Martin Hay) said:

Martin> Idek/Iiyama Visionmaster 17" - Mmmmmmmm.  I'm going to get one
Martin> in the next few weeks.  They're so nice you just want to lick
Martin> them :-)

I just bought a Visionmaster 17" ($740+tx) a few weeks ago and I love
it!  I think it looks better than the Nanao F2-17's I've seen here at
work and it costs much less.

Also, if your doing any CAD work this monitor has bandwidth to spare
for those high resolutions (e.g. it'll do 1280x1024 @ 80 Hz).


Ignoring cost for a moment, I think the Sony GDM20 monitors that come
with the current SGI and SUN workstations are the best monitors I've
ever looked at (of course at more than $2000 a pop I ain't rushing out
to buy one).  Nothing beats a good trinitron monitor!

If I had money to burn I'd still probably go with an iiyama (albeit a
21").

A guy here at work just got a new NEC 17"XP and my iiyama kicks its
ass!  (of course, I haven't seen many other XP's so it could be a
fluke...).


  --jfc


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JEFF DALLACQUA (jeff.da...@grinder.com) wrote:
: I have a Nanao 340i-w 15 inch monitor for nearly 2 years. It's served me
: pretty well, but I'd like to sell it and save up my pennies for a 17
: inch monitor. Can anybody give me a recommendation for a really good 17
: inch monitor? I heard Nokia and NEC are good brands. Is this true? Can
: you also give me a model number?

: And is there any national computer outlet that has quality monitors on
: display that I can go and "tire kick" myself? I'd really like to see one
: in action before I spend $700 - $900 on one.

: Any info apperciated. Thanks!

NEC's at least to me are to "shiny". If you have any windows in your
computer room, you'll get pretty severe reflections.

I really like my Sony SE17. It's a little more expensive than what you
want to spend but for me it is worth it.
The Sony SF17 is good as well, but it doesn't have the high scan rates
that the SE does (this may not matter to you). The thing that I like
about the Sony's is the .25 dot pitch which makes for a more
clean, crisp image.

Another monitor to check out is the Mag 17". .26 dot pitch and all of the
little goodies of the NEC AND a lower price than the Sony, NEC or Nokia.

Hope this helps,
Chris

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In article <8B0048A.01F1...@grinder.com>,
JEFF DALLACQUA <jeff.da...@grinder.com> wrote:

>
>Any info apperciated. Thanks!

A 17" ADI Microscan monitor came with my new Zeos system.  I measured
the diagonal of the screen and it is 15-3/8".  I called Zeos and
complained and was told that the picture tube was 17" and if I had any
more questions I could call ADI.  I feel like I was taken for a little
bit of a ride.  My advice to you is to take a measuring tape.  More
reputable manufacturers (IBM and Sun, IMHO) won't use this false
advertising.

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f...@butler.fee.uva.nl (Frank Compagner) writes:

>I'll second that, i've had it the Visionmaster 17" for over a year now, 
>and it's great.

OK, I'll third it.  :-)  8 months, and I still love it.  Even more
important, my technophobic wife loves it, too. :-)

Gary

In article <42bj5s$7...@cyberlink.clo.com> avc...@clo.com (Avianna Chao) writes:
>From: avc...@clo.com (Avianna Chao)
>Subject: Re: 17 inch monitor recommendations?
>Date: Sun, 03 Sep 1995 06:54:28 GMT

>mcco...@source.asset.com (Andrew McConnell) wrote:

>>In article <8B0048A.01F1...@grinder.com>,
>>JEFF DALLACQUA <jeff.da...@grinder.com> wrote:

>>>
>>>Any info apperciated. Thanks!

>>A 17" ADI Microscan monitor came with my new Zeos system.  I measured
>>the diagonal of the screen and it is 15-3/8".  I called Zeos and
>>complained and was told that the picture tube was 17" and if I had any
>>more questions I could call ADI.  I feel like I was taken for a little
>>bit of a ride.  My advice to you is to take a measuring tape.  More
>>reputable manufacturers (IBM and Sun, IMHO) won't use this false
>>advertising.

>Well, actually, no 17" monitor will give you 17" worth of diagonal
>viewing area.  The most I think is like 16.1" or 16.2".  The picture
>tube is 17", but part of that is covered up in the bording frame.  The
>person who told you that you have a 17" picture tube is correct.  It
>is just that there doesn't exist any monitors that actually gives the
>display area they say they are, the 14", 17", 21" measurements is the
>picture tube, not the actual display area.

>Avianna Chao
>avc...@clo.com

The television industry recently changed its regulations on picture tube size, 
The computer moniter industry should think about following suit.

It used to be that a 28" TV only had a 26" veiwing area, now that same TV is 
considered a 26".

Just my two cents worth.

Chris
 

In article <rdippold.809839283@ruffin>
           rdip...@qualcomm.com "Ron "Asbestos" Dippold" writes:

> Get something with a Sony Trinitron tube.  you won't regret it.  They're
> absolutely rock solid, none of the moireing or banding or warping or grain
> problems you see on all these other monitors (some of the NEC seem
> particularly susceptible to this).
> 
> -- 
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> 
I recommend the Idek Iiyama.  I seen quite a few and they all have
been consistently good.  They have also won just about every monitor
test that I have seen.

Rajesh Varia     r...@c4rv.demon.co.uk

In article <rdippold.809839283@ruffin>, rdip...@qualcomm.com (Ron
"Asbestos" Dippold) wrote:

> Get something with a Sony Trinitron tube.  you won't regret it.  They're
> absolutely rock solid, none of the moireing or banding or warping or grain
> problems you see on all these other monitors (some of the NEC seem
> particularly susceptible to this).

Apple makes really nice 17" screens. They use the Trinitron tube, and have
digital controls. 

They even have headphone and microphone jacks. The 17AV versions (new)
have built in speakers. 

The monitors work on both IBMs and Apples.

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I have a question.  My friend has a Sony FS15" monitor.  Obviously it is a Trinitron tube.
His system is a P75 using ATI Mach 64 PCI video card, 2mb RAM.  The monitor looks sharp
but there is something really annoying about it.  Every time the screen switches, it floats.
At first, I didn't think too much of this.  But after playing with his system a bit longer,
this floating problem starts to make me dizzy.  Does anyone know why this is the case?

In <rdippold.809839283@ruffin>, rdip...@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) writes:
>Get something with a Sony Trinitron tube.  you won't regret it.  They're
>absolutely rock solid, none of the moireing or banding or warping or grain
>problems you see on all these other monitors (some of the NEC seem
>particularly susceptible to this).
>
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Regards,

Lawell Kiing (Toronto email: lki...@vnet.ibm.com)

lki...@vnet.ibm.com wrote:

>I have a question.  My friend has a Sony FS15" monitor.  Obviously it is a Trinitron tube.
>His system is a P75 using ATI Mach 64 PCI video card, 2mb RAM.  The monitor looks sharp
>but there is something really annoying about it.  Every time the screen switches, it floats.
>At first, I didn't think too much of this.  But after playing with his system a bit longer,
>this floating problem starts to make me dizzy.  Does anyone know why this is the case?

Well then there is something wrong with the monitor, or he has a
magnet field in the area of the Sony.
I have a NEC 4fg, which is very good, and a Sony, the sony
has a brighter screen than the NEC, but the sony's screen is
as sharp as a knife.

grtx
Angelo