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Re: Win95 a TRUE OS? Help a newbie!

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From: fs... PALMER THOMAS L
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 00:00
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fit...@osu.edu wrote:
: In <40uqt8$6...@mirv.unsw.edu.au>, Vincent Ho <s2172730> writes:
: >In article <3vk3o1$c...@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk> kyw...@cs.cuhk.hk (Wong) writes:
: >>In message <3vdumb$k...@seymour.sfu.ca> - b...@sfu.ca (Jeremy Bee) writes:
: >>
: >>:>Also, if you simply type "ver" at the prompt in Win95, you won't get
: > "Dos-7.0" but "Win95".  
: >>:>
: >>:>Jeremy
: >>
: >>	If you run MSD at "SAM mode" of windows 95, you'll get "MS-DOS 7.0".
: >
: >
: >  Exactly, but all this means nothing.  I could rewrite the "ver" function in
: >DOS or in Windows 95 to say anything I wanted.  All that it demonstrates is
: >that someone has changed the code for the ver function.  It doesn't prove
: >anything *else* have changed.  I'm not bashing/praising Windows 95, just saying
: >that "ver" is almost certainly independent of the rest of the OS.
: >
: >________________________________________________________
: >			Loki				
: >
: >--> OS Too: We've given up on waking him.
: >
: >E-mail: s217...@cse.unsw.edu.au				
: >Web   : http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2172730/
: >
: >--------> May the force live long & prosper.  <---------
: Win95 is a new desktop shell with 32bit support.  Anything that is made for it will
: also work with Windows 3.1 with a 32bit patch that is available from almost all
: ftp servers that support the windows enviroment.  The dos support is truley less support
: then dos 6.x offers.  I cannot get many of my games to run under the 95 enviroment
: even when I bypass the desktop shell and go through the long task of getting directly 
: to the command prompt.  All Microsoft did was add 32bit support, some extra utilities
: that windows 3.1 didn't ship with, and made the desktop a pain to navigate.
: For a true OS you should consider OS/2 Warp!  This platform will run many dos and windows
: programs and native os2 programs.  It will also let you customise Dos and Windows settings
: to meet individual programs needs.  For example, On my system I have successfully ran:
: 	Doom/2
: 	Gunship 2000
: 	2 seperate windows sessions (WP 6.1 in one) and (Excel in the other)
: 	and 10 OS/2 specific applications (including Harddisk utils, and Internet programs)
: 	at the same time.
: I have failed to see anyone match this with win95.  Also OS/2 has a command structure that
: will allow you to boot up Specific Dos Sessions (like 4.1, 5.0, 6.X, 7.0) if a program requires
: a specific dos.  And in the event that this tatic doesn't work.  OS/2 has the option to boot
: up the system with your older DOS still 100% operational.
: I fail to see the greatness of 95 when Warp goes far beyond.  But I guess for people who don't
: take computing seriously 95 is as good as a MAC.  ---Pun intended---

: If you would like to know more about OS/2 a true OS, and not just flame me, Please feel free to 
: email me.

OS/2 Warp is the absolute worst OS I have ever seen. I bought it seening 
as everyone claimed it was so good. Not only was I unable to get it to 
install because of my Western Digital EIDE drive, IBM could give me NO 
HELP WHAT SO EVER. I called the 1-800 number given in the package and was 
told I had to call a new toll #. I had got a FREE copy of 2.1 about 5 
months prior and was told then that they didn't have 1-800 support. I 
couldn't install that one because it couldn't see my CD-Rom. I figured 
since 5 months had passed and they put the 1-800 number in the package as 
the support line that it was..boy was I wrong. I tried to call the toll # 
and was put on hold for 45 minutes and then told that there was nothing I 
could do. I ended up giving it to my roomate. He installed it, tried to 
use it, called it shit after a week and we destroyed the entire thing, 
books disk and everything. As far as using WIN95 for games well quite a 
few mag have been able to get everthing to run under it. There was a copy 
of it here at a local computer store and once they and I got a hang of 
setting up DOS sessions there WASN'T A SINGLE PRODUCT available right now 
that we couldn't get to work. They also had OS/2 Warp running once and 
they couldn't get 15% of the games to work. And that was over a 4 month 
period. Ohhh for those of you who think you can still play games w/o 
Win95 go find out how many big name game publishers are moving to Win95. 
With the ability to get 45fps out of a game on a 486/66 with a DOS game 
that could only get 30fps in DOS on a P-75 how can you go wrong???
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From: fs...@aurora.alaska.edu (PALMER THOMAS L)
Subject: Re: Win95 a TRUE OS? Help a newbie!
Date: 1995/08/23
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