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Any OS/2 users have the brains/balls to refute what this post states? 
i think this post has a fairly decent amount of intelligence in it, not
to mention reasonable logic about MS's marketing.

Come on OS/2 zealots, flame away at this one, IF YOU CAN.


In <3tnjmr$k...@steel.interlog.com> dav...@interlog.com (Dave Glue)
writes: 

>This is still up in the air.  I was surprised to hear this, but
>instead of spamming the net in a "P6 Panic", I went to the Intel
>conference and asked an Intel representative.
>
>16 bits apps will not take advantage of the P6's speed, on 95 or NT.
>32 bit apps I was told however, DO take advantage of the P6 _under
>95_.  I think the PC Week article may have been speculation, Intel
>stated that the P6 does not run 16-bit code well, and since it is
>known that Win95 contains some 16 bit code, they may have assumed that
>Win95 will run poorly.  Anyways, the Intel rep stated 32-bit apps
>under 95 and NT do show significant speed gains with the P6.
>
>With 95 however, it depends on the application.  Some may call more
>16-bit code, some may call less.  To say Windows 95 is "mostly" 16 bit
>is riduclous however, it's actually mostly 32-bit.  But the 16-bit
>portions can be critical in terms of speed.  We'll see.
>
>To sum up: Lets wait until we get some actual benchmarks to panic.  I
>don't hold the reasoning that this isn't a problem because you can
>"just go to NT", as NT resource requirements are still quite high
>compared to 95 and there is no guarantee it will run all 95 apps,
>specifically games.  P6 may be priced for NT systems with 16 megs NOW,
>but as always, it will drop.  And from past experience, I wouldn't be
>surprised to see RAM prices stay the same while the P6 costs half as
>much as its introduction.
>
>
>>interface.  It is already in Beta from what I have heard.  MS is also
looking at the 
>
>To clarify: Windows NT with the _95_ interface is in beta, and likely
>will be released very early '96.  As for the object-oriented NT, MS
>stated some time ago that it would be a series of add-ons, rather than
>a large "Cairo" roll-out.
>
>>Bill buddy doesn't have the best marketing analyists working for him
- because he does.  
>>Bill is going to grab a major chunk of cash with this forward and
backward WIN95 OS by 
>>serving it up to the home market, and then tweek-up NT for the next
generation of chips.
>
>What I don't get is how some people see this as a "conspiracy".  Of
>course MS would like you to move to NT, it's a more robust OS, and its
>ability to work across Power PC/Mips/Alpha/Intel machines just widens
>MS's market.
>
>But MS's realizes it needs apps, and people just can't make the
>_large_ jump to NT.  So 95 is created.  It has compromises, but it
>works, and works well for most machines where NT wouldn't.  You want
>to upgrade to NT?  Do it when you get the hardware.  There's nothing
>backhanded about this, it's serving your target markets while giving
>them an upgrade path they don't even have to _wait for_.  Want a
>better Windows 95 when you get the hardware?  No need to wait, it's
>already here!
>
>>the Bible...however, I find it hard to understand why an OS with
portions of GDI and USER 
>>in 16 bit having only 10% performance gain on a chip with twice the
transistors? 
>
>The # of transistors does not necessarily translate into performance
>gain. The problem is that by changing _modes_ of memory "prediction"
>in the P6 causes a large speed hit because of it's 14 pipelines, as
>compared to 6 in the P5.  Don't quote me on any technical details
>however.
>
>>same problem, if it runs 16 bit apps on a P6 and yes 16 bit apps will
dominate for 
>>sometime. 
>
>I question this actually.  With MS releasing a 32-bit version of
>office with 95, and 16-bit apps performing (already) quite poorly
>under NT, it's not in a companies best competitive interests to
>release a 16-bit app when it likely will be raked through the coals in
>PC reviews and suffer against the competitions 32-bit apps.  MS sets
>the standard here, and they'll be the ones out the door first with
>32-bit apps.  Others will follow if they want to survive.
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