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In alt.games.video.xbox sayNO2steam <sayNO...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, "Michel Thiffault" wrote:

> "centralized folder for game saves"
> pure cosmetic! we don't need it! no thanks microsoft!

Well, it WOULD make it easier to administer a machine with multiple users 
on it if each one had their own folder for saves.  It would also make it 
easier to migrate over to a new machine.  But other than that, I don't see 
this affecting gameplay at all.

> "auto-updates"
> oh yes, i bet microsoft is thinking about a steam like thing for windows
> but we will not use it! NO TO STEAM LIKE TECHNOLOGIES! they are intrusive
> and against consumer rights! and putting steam and microsoft together
> would have the destructive damaging force of a megaton bomb for pc games

Would you give it a rest about steam already?  Geeze.  There are already 
update services - THAT DON'T USE STEAM OR STEAM-LIKE TECHNOLOGY - that are 
available for the PC.  You "register" what applications you want the service 
to monitor for you, and it goes out and checks the its internal database for 
what the latest version is.  If you need an update, some will even provide 
it to you, or will just alert you to go to the regular website and download 
it the old fashioned way.

For those who feel they *must* run the latest and greatest version as soon 
as it's released, this is for them.  For the rest of us...I don't see it 
as that big of an issue really.   Unless I'm convinced the newer version 
will provide me with some benefits (be them added features, or bug fixes) 
I don't normally grab updates or upgrades. 

> "new version of DirectX"
> should we thank microsoft for updating directx? or should we instead have
> version 9 forever? its obvious microsoft has to continue supporting and
> updating directx! if microsoft said we will not longer update directx and
> you must buy an xbox to play games, they would be in terrible trouble
> with everyone from the pc and game industry against them and i bet all
> would boycott microsoft, it would be their end

Agreed.  I fail to see how a new version of DirectX is worth mentioning, 
unless you're interested in game development for the PC.  Otherwise...who 
cares?   I don't install newer versions of DirectX unless a game 
explicitly requests one.  Even then, I usually go with the version 
provided, as it's guaranteed to work, as opposed to the latest & greatest 
version from Microsoft.

> "XNA"
> microsoft wants pcs to be used in game development but wants xbox to be
> used for playing! we all know microsoft supporting windows but what i
> was talking about is microsoft downgrading pc as a PLAYING platform not
> a developers platform!

XNA is just XBox-ese for "DirectX".  Don't ask me why they felt they 
needed to rename the technology, but don't be confused by it.

Furthermore, PCs are *NOT* and *CANNOT* be used to develop games for the 
next generation of Xbox because Xbox360 is based on a PowerPC chip from 
Motorolla, not a Pentium chip from Intel.  Truth be told, early Xbox360 
developers have been using Macintohes to develop their games because 
Xbox360 will have more in common with a Mac than a Intel PC.

> bottom line, microsoft is promoting xbox as a gaming platform and the pc
> as a developers platform, but what we want is pcs for everything!
> we don't want to be forced in buying EXTRA SUPERFLUOUS CRAPPY microsoft
> made hardware to play games!

While it is to Microsoft's benefit for you to buy XBox games, this by no 
means  that Microsoft is killing off PC gaming from their Windows 
productline - your posted points above should be evidence enough of that.  
Microsoft knows full well that the key to holding onto their monsterous 
market share is by providing a platform for gam

It's clear you haven't even tried out an Xbox, so you really can't make 
comments about the quality of the HW.  

> we want to keep playing games in QUALITY hardware made by all the great
> companies that work for the pc architecture
> microsoft only for the operating system cause when it comes to gaming
> hardware they suck

> we don't want more monopoly from microsoft!
> they have already monopoly in operating system we don't want them to have
> monopoly in gaming hardware!
> never accept playing games in any type of consoles!
> games are to be played in a pc!
> long live pc games!

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