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Re: some thoughts about nazism and games

#707157
From: BB
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:00
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You need to study history a little more carefully, my friend!

The Jews were the first group targeted for systematic victimisation by
the Nazis, not some group that was singled out "toward the end of the
war".  Brownshirt thugs were singling out Jews for bashings and
murders and burning down their houses and businesses well before the
Nazis even seized control of the apparatus of the German State.

After the Nazis came to power, Jews were systematically deprived of
their political and civil rights.  They were the earliest and most
victimised group under the Nazi regime.  Even at the beginning of the
war, the mass arrests, imprisonments and murders by the SS and Gestapo
were well under way.

If you can't come at reading any proper historical account of these
events, try reading "Mein Kampf" instead - you will probably enjoy it.
Hitler was clearly obsessed by the same ugly, paranoid ideas that you
espouse.  Anyone who truly understands the depth of Hitler's hatred
and vilification of the Jews will know how implausible it is that the
Jews watched in comfort while the Nazis suppressed the Gypsies,
Communists, dissenting academics, trade unionists etc etc etc.  The
Jews always were the prime scapegoat of the Nazis and were sacrificed
accordingly.

Cheers - BB




**** ****** <jdig...@elp.rr.com> wrote in message
news:x6gD3.80$85.2062@newsr2.elp.rr.com...
> This is the first intelligent response to my statement about the
crybaby
> that thought the symbols in Unreal Tourney "looked" like swastikas
and had
> to start the crying all over again. Lots of us here in the US have
fathers
> or grand fathers that WERE there and we listen to them about what
happened
> .. NOT the jewish run TV with their "Sweeps Week" holocaust specials
that we
> must endure at least twice a year.They know if they can continue the
lies
> and make saying ANYTHING against what they want us to believe
subject to
> ridicule then all they have to do is wait until those war patriots
die
> off...then they will be right. The WW2 german jew stood in their
doorways
> and watched for 3 years while political rivals,gypsies,Catholic
priests and
> nuns and any one else who didn't accept the Nazi view of the world
was taken
> to the camps.Then when those people died in the camps and Hitler
needed a
> new enemy to focus on, which was toward the end of the war, the jews
were
> taken away.They were put to work ...a good thing ..NO. The small
poor jew
> that just wanted to believe like he wanted, taking the hit for the
rich
> banking jews that continued to crush Germany after WW1 ... a good
thing
> ...NO. That's the difference and we here (in the US) call them
Zionists.
> These Zionist control all media here in the US with few exception.
They
> believe their book of Talmad that refers to the non jew as no better
than a
> "beast of the field" and we are getting sick and tired of hearing
them cry .
> Like you said .. 55 years ... the non jew US citizen did a lot of
dying over
> there 55 years ago..it wasn't only jews !!!
>
> B&B <bunmohNOSP...@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:7rg2mg$mvv$1@m2.c2.telstra-mm.net.au...
> > The (approximately) 6 million Jews who were deliberately
exterminated
> > by the Nazis came from all over Europe, not just Germany.
> >
> > I find it very sad that, 55 years on, we are not only losing those
who
> > directly experienced these horrors but we have people popping up
who
> > are denying the very reality of those experiences.  I have
personally
> > met two survivors of the death camps who had the rest of their
family
> > murdered simply because they were Jewish.  These people survived
> > because they were "lucky" enough to be needed for labouring jobs
> > within the camps (including the disposal of gassed bodies in one
case)
> > around the time of their liberation.  A few more weeks and they
would
> > both have been killed too.
> >
> > It is difficult to know what this man with his irrational theories
> > about Jews and his seeming hatred of them is really arguing here.
Is
> > it that there were only 5 million Jews gassed, shot or starved to
> > death?  4 million maybe?  1 million, perhaps?  Were there "only"
> > 10,000 murdered in the death camps?
> >
> > The figure of 6 million was based on the best information
available to
> > the conquering allies.  A number of institutions devoted to
studying
> > the holocaust can still name many of them.
> >
> > The sheer scale of the horror of World War 2 is impossible for
present
> > generations to fully understand.  The only armed conflicts that we
> > know from our modern news reports are mere skirmishes in
comparison.
> > For instance, how many really know that there were about *20
million*
> > Soviet Union civilians and military personnel killed in World War
2?
> > Most of those were civilians who were murdered in what would now
be
> > called "ethnic cleansing" by the SS and Nazi-led troops and, of
> > course, many of those were Jewish.
> >
> > The true horror of the attempted extermination of the European
Jews
> > was a combination of both its scale and its motive.  These people
were
> > murdered simply *because* they were Jewish.  They were not part of
> > some great imagined Jewish conspiracy.  They were just ordinary
people
> > who were usually parted from their loved ones and put through
enormous
> > suffering before being mercilessly killed, all to satisfy the
demands
> > of some insane and evil ideology.
> >
> > May their souls rest in peace.
> >
> >
> >
> > **** ****** <jdig...@elp.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:eqDC3.44$85.1354@newsr2.elp.rr.com...
> > > Read the 1945 World Almanac and see if there was "6million"
people
> > in
> > > Germany much less "6 million" jews. dick
> > >
> > >
> > > Matt Bowman <Ma...@jungsite.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:D6+s9BAYDn23MwW5@jungsite.demon.co.uk...
> > > > In article <d9jC3.4$85....@newsr1.elp.rr.com>, **** ******
> > > > <jdig...@elp.rr.com> writes
> > > > >Well, the facts about the inflated number of jews that died
in
> > the camps
> > > ARE
> > > > >documented,hell there weren't that many jews in ALL of Europe
at
> > the
> > > time.
> > > > >And as far as "sucking dry" is concerned you're right,
England
> > did that
> > > and
> > > > >all around the world (the country is run by the jewish
> > > bankers,Vanderbuilt
> > > > >ring a bell history buff ?).You read your history about
Ireland
> > and see
> > > how
> > > > >they raped that place and tried to starve out the Irish while
> > they
> > > leveled
> > > > >the forest to build their ships. Ignorant....no  I just don't
eat
> > up jew
> > > > >propaganda
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > oh boy, you are one ignorant motherfucker
> > > >
> > > > there is no point trying to reason with a shithead like this.
> > > >
> > > > Have you ever studied history in your life or did you just
read
> > some
> > > > article in Nazi weekly?
> > > >
> > > > You can deny that existence of 6 million people if you like
but it
> > only
> > > > proves you have lost your connection with reality.
> > > > --
> > > > Matt Bowman
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: Re: some thoughts about nazism and games
Date: 1999/09/14
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