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Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 04:26:09 -0400, Xocyll <Xoc...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>>entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
>>say:
>
>>> Oddly
>>>enough, the increased level - while pleasant to look at - made the
>>>game actually that much less immersive, since its increased realism
>>>only brought into contrast many of the inconsistencies of the game's
>>>world (like, if the war was over 200 years ago then why are there
>>>still-fresh corpses from the war all over?).
>
>
>>For me it was the architecture - just another example of stupid
>>programmers/designers.
>
>>Sure the ramshackle hut with gaping openings is fine when you've set the
>>game in California, or Nevada or such, but FO4 is set in Boston, where
>>it gets damn cold and gets loads of snow - that kind of living quarters
>>= everybody dies the first winter.
>
>
>Oh man, that annoyed me too. It was one of the reasons I stopped
>engaging with the base-building mechanics; the structures I was
>allowed to construct were so flimsy they offered no protection from
>the environment. Forget Bostonian winters; it gets cool enough in
>summer there that you sometimes want four solid walls around you, and
>not something made of rusty plate metal with gaps large enough to
>shove your head through. 

There is that, but the other annoying thing is that the flimsy plywood
structure is also an impenetrable barrier you can't shoot through or
break through even in power armor.

Really _destroys_ immersion.

>I suppose the developers could argue that the nuclear holocaust
>altered the climate enough that the world is significantly warmer than
>it is today; certainly, the highly-radioactive "Glowing Sea" must
>provide an immense heat-island that warms the nearby area (we'll leave
>aside its probable other effects). A warmer clime isn't evident in any
>other part of the game, though; if it is that warm then you expect
>people to wear less heavy clothing (and not, for instance, everyone
>wearing heavy leather armor over thermal underwear long-johns).

Bingo, and there's still the Atlantic Ocean right there cooling things
off.

>The real problem of course is that the Fallout universe has a certain
>look to it, and Bethesda did not want to stray too far from the
>visuals introduced in the earlier games. This ties in to what I had
>said about how the game felt very much like a rehash of the older
>titles. Arguably had they developers changed the appearance of the
>game too much they would have alienated the fans. The lack of variety
>probably had more to do with marketing and finance than it did with
>the imagination and ability of the developers.

I think they just got lazy, and reused art from previous games and never
thought through that they were setting the game much farther north than
before.
And possibly that the developers live in a nice warm climate and it
never occurred to them that other climates even exist.

They made power armor a bigger part of the game this time around and
that would have been enhanced by a more malevolent environment that made
it harder to not use it.

Heavy snow, freezing temperatures, etc as well as radiation, raiders and
so on.


Maybe FO5 can be set in Florida so they don't have to bother with real
architecture again.

Mmmm, giant mutant Alligators - yep, gonna want power armor.
Oh wait, power armor in the swamps - if they can get you stuck that
could be a detriment, but not if it's like FO4 where you don't even get
slowed.


Power armor also bugs me - who designs _ARMOR_ with the power
supply/engine hanging out the back totally exposed to enemy fire?

Remember all those tanks throughout history where they hung the engine
out in the open to be easily destroyed?   Yeah, me neither.

I suppose this stuff makes sense to console players, but damn if I can
make any sense of it.

Oh, maybe it's the male equivalent of the female fantasy ARMOR that
shows cleavage and midriff and provides essentially zero actual
protection.

Xocyll
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