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Article #694767Re: Fallout 4 - Now this is pretty stupid
From: Justisaur
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:16
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:16
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On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 12:12:16 PM UTC-8, Xocyll wrote: > Tim O <timo56...@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of > the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say: > > >On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 21:23:40 -0500, Xocyll <Xoc...@gmx.com> wrote: > > > > > >>>I'm OK with bugs, I know thats going to happen in an open world game, > >>>particularly on the PC. Some of the most fun and memorable things in > >>>Skyrim, STALKER and Far Cry games are when the AI comes unglued and > >>>crazy stuff happens. > >>> > >>> The show-stopper for me with Fallout isn't a bug, its the complete > >>>negligence of not letting you customize the controls. Some keys are > >>>locked out for not reason and others stay hard-coded even if you try > >>>to re-map them. It was never officially fixed in Skyrim (modders did > >>>it), and is apparently even worse in FO4. > >> > >>That's a deal breaker for me. > >> > >>I think I can count on one hand the number of games whose default key > >>binds were ones I wanted to use. > >> > >>Sometimes I get the feeling game companies planned around a console > >>controller and then almost randomly assigned the "buttons" to keys on a > >>keyboard without any thought to usability. > >> > >>Not having the ability to customize your keybinds has been unforgivable > >>since at least Halflife. > >>There's absolutely no excuse for it, and they just lost a sale because > >>of it. > > > >I didn't buy it yet either. Skyrim wouldn't let you rebind movement to > >the numberpad, I worked around that by using keys on the right side of > >the keyboard. It wasn't ideal, but I got by. > > > >From what I'm reading, Skyrims bindings were easy to separate from the > >main part of the game so modders were able to fix them. Fallout 4 is > >more integrated and complex. So far, the best anyone has been able to > >do is make an Auto Hot Key script. I'll consider dealing with that > >kind of nonsense to play a cheapie, I'm not buying a full priced game > >then wasting an hoour or more on a kludge to make it playable. > > Never used AutoHotKey and not sure if I particularly want to install an > app to workaround stupid design decisions. I've used AutoHotKey before, but for creating macro scripts for work & running multiple batch files. It can be a little finicky especially with multiple key presses, I'm not sure it would work really well for a game, but it's a great program. I know back when I was playing EQ it was bannable to have it running. Apparently it was used by people to run repetitive tasks like crafting. > Funny how games managed to do it 20 years ago, but Bethesda can't manage > it now. Even worse, their OWN games. They just don't care about the PC games I guess, or just think, eh... the modders will do our work. Free fixes for us! - Justisaur
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