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Article #694610Re: Lets talk about gamestreaming
From: Toby Newman
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 06:51
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 06:51
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On 2015-10-22, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote: > Hi guys as an owner of an NVidia shield and soon also of a Steam Link > box, I want to open this tread to discuss all things gamestreaming. > This might become a huge topic for the years to come, since it moves > pc gaming into the living room. > > First of all I have been using Steam Inhome streaming in the past over > wifi and full lan connections with an xbox controller hooked up to my > notebook (which itself was hooked to my tv). Wifi it worked more or less > but you could forget about action games due to occasional wifi hickups. > RPGs and slower paced games worked fine. > > The problem still was the input method which basically came down to > either buy a wireless mouse and keyboard and use that from the couch or > play with a controller. In the end I settled for a controller which > however locked me out of certain genres. > (I am not a fps fan, so I could care less about mouselook and 0ms input lag) > > Now I have moved over to a NVidia Shield. Plus side 4k gaming and 5.1 > sound in the living room finally works with the latest beta drivers. The > input lag also is neglectable on a wired connection, however the game > selection is limited due to the enforced controller only games > selection. Out of my 120-130 steam games NVidia has recognized about 19 > being playable on the shield without limitations, mostly aaa titles. > However in the Shields case a wired connection really was/is a must. > What really suprisingly worked well was their Gamestream service (which > I tried during the beta phase) even with 20-40ms lag the games were > really playable. And NVidia definitely had servers all over europe given > the low ping times I got here in central Europe (20-30ms to NVidias servers) > But either way I dont like to pay a monthly fee for their service for > 80% of games I own anyway and 20% which are mildly interesting. You > cannot even save your games to the steam cloud if you play that way. > > > So the next step will be the Steam Link and Steam controller on November > the 10th. I have high hopes on this one, because in my general opinion > Steam Inhome Streaming works a tad better than NVidias solution and does > not rely entirely on the graphics hardware for the encoding. However the > downside is, no 4k gaming 2.0 sound. The plus side will be that the > Steam controller will open other genres to couch gaming. Given the > reports of various people it is a good controller, however certain > genres lend better to the controller than others. FPS (for fans of that > stuff) for instance are somewhere between a controller and a mouse > keyboard combo, if you configure it correctly. The key here will be the > configuration since the controller is not really a standard controller > (it can emulate an xinput controller) but you can remap the hell out of it. > > So I will look forward to November the 10th when I get my Steam link gear. > I tried Steam In-home streaming earlier in the year. Server was a moderately powerful Win7 PC, client was Fedora linux, infrastructure was GigE ethernet. I found that the overhead of encoding the video cost about 10fps on my host PC, and there was a big detriment to video quality. I gave up on the idea and ran HDMI through a CAT-5 adapter instead. That's not been ideal either; At 1080p there are occasional dropouts so I have to run at 720p. Depending on if I want to play on my main PC or send it to my living room means I have to reconfigure my PC's video output and default soundcard. Can't find any way to automate this at the moment and it's a real PITA. - Toby Add the word afiduluminag to the subject to circumvent my email filters.
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