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Article #6043Re: Why Origin Sucks (various bitchings)
From: lew... Michael Lewchuk
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 00:00
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 00:00
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be...@accessnv.com (BenV) writes: >Origin seems to have just pushed the envelope with their game requirements. So what's new? Origin should probably change their name to "High End System Recommended/Required". :) >And if you don't have the stuff to play them, you're screwed. 'Course if you Of course the same can be said for most games. If you're trying to play a 386+ game on an 8088 ... >do, you're in for a GOOD game. The last game I bought from them that ran ok >was Ultima 7/7.5 and it RULED!!! What type of system do you have? If it's a 486 or higher, I'd expect that these games ran "perfectly", not just "ok". >I got Wing Armada and thought they'd come >out with enough add-ons to the war between Earth and Kilrah. Although it >looked REALLY cool at some points (like when the cloaking ship becomes made >up of boxy polygons, glows, then there's just the wireframe, and then that >glows and vanished. It looked awesome). No comment on Armada. >Ultima 8 sucked but since Origin >doesn't come oput with that many games that are overwhelmingly hated tha can >be let go. Everyone makes mistakes, especially when trying to come out with I only disliked Ultima 8 for the lack of a conventional realspace map (in other words, it's nearly impossible to model a pie shaped area well by using squares, and I don't see that Origin's cloth map fit the real world map well, although it might have) and the Nintendo-izing of the puzzles. While throwing a ball at something or other might be cute in Ultima Underworld, where you have full 3D control over your position and whatnot, it's darn hard in Ultima 8 where you must try to step on the right square at the right height, etc. etc. etc. Oh, the pentagram should have been done a tad better, with candle holders at each point. But it was a pretty good game. Speed could have been better but it ran ... acceptably. >principles all thought them (U1-U8). I bought System Shock, maybe their first >game to ask for the most from your machine. It ran like crap. It pulled the >sorriest frame rate out of my computer I've ever seen. It was my first look My 486/33 with ISA 1Mb video ran it just fine. Sometimes it did run SLOOOOOWWWLY but I simply reset my system and it ran just fine again. I'm not sure what was going on, maybe a mouse or sound driver gone flaky. Really, System Shock was a joy to experience on my system; I'm surprised it wasn't on yours. If you need to, perhaps you can play it in VGA instead of SVGA. (320x200 instead of 640x400). I doubt it makes THAT much difference in terms of graphics - it didn't on WC3 (where I had a choice between SLOOOW SVGA and acceptable VGA and acceptable VGA won hands down). I must say that Looking Glass has made me want to buy their NEXT game as well. >awhile. But if I DO upgrade my computer, the first game I'mgoing to install >will be system shock. And the first game I buy of there's will be Wing >Commander 3. Again, I did play WC3 on my system, and it ran, well, acceptably. Perhaps a bit faster than WC1 did on a friend's 386SX. Sure, I used VGA, but all in all that didn't detract much from the game itself (SVGA cutscenes were nice tho). However it did make me realize that there's a real difference between a 486 with 1Mb ISA SVGA and a 586/90 with 2Mb PCI SVGA and 4xCD in terms of the gaming quality you can have on it. >If anyone wants to write to me and tell me WHY exactly Origin >sucks. I'd be glad to hear it, because out of the rest of the computer game >designers Origin at least cleans out alot of their bugs And doesn't release junk (even Ultima 6 wasn't junk, though it had to be debugged for 3 months before it was bug-free enough to play a game without worrying you'd corrupt your save file beyond recognition). >add GREAT cut-scenes >with well-known actors and keep the basic gameplay there. Using this trick They don't even need well-known actors. >as more of something to compliment gameplaying, instead of making it feel >like you're solving some mission or puzzle JUST to see the nifty sfx and >pictures on your computer screen. Just wanted to give my .002 on a post >saying that one of my favorite game companies "sucks" >-Ben Michael Lewchuk lew...@cs.UAlberta.CA
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From: lew...@cs.ualberta.ca (Michael Lewchuk) Subject: Re: Why Origin Sucks (various bitchings) Date: 1995/09/19 Message-ID: <43ms2i$rhr@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca> X-Deja-AN: 110384561 references: <43fd37$6rb@regiss.optera.com> <43gcbl$qn2@ruby.ucc.nau.edu> <herrin.446.305C4D10@why.com> <rsbrown.30.002BF236@mountain-inter.net> <43l28o$ev4_001@bighorn.accessnv.com> organization: Computing Science, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,alt.games.ultima.dragons,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit