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Article #3108Re: Win95 a TRUE OS? Help a newbie!
From: jo... John Robert Williams
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 00:00
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 00:00
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Psychoboy (mcr...@ix.netcom.com) wrote: > Is Microsoft Windows 95 a true, real operating system? This is totally subjective. > Now, of course, this question has many loose ends, so I'll try to > set the variables. Now, a lot of people think Windows 3.xx is an > operating system. Well, it isn't...for most people, MS-DOS is. Windows > 3.xx is, in essence, just a shell that will run a WIDE variety of > programs. But it in itself is a program...a program run by DOS, which is > the operating system. Disk Operating System...without it, or enough of While I would not QUITE call Windows 3 a true operating system, it is MUCH more than a shell (I know this from experience programming in Windows). It handles close to 100% of graphics, interface, sound, etc. that DOS programs must do for themselves. > place you'd end up is in your setup, in your ROM. DOS controls your > computer...it pretty much IS your computer. So with this said, is > Windows 95 a shell, or a real operating system? Is it loaded from DOS? Do > you exit from it, or is it a real OS...like a graphical DOS? I am > severely confused on this matter. Where does DOS 7 come in? If Windows > 95 is a true OS, DOS 7 would be just a shell to run DOS programs, right? > Unless Windows 95 can run DOS programs some other way. Please...someone > help me. Thank you for any responses in advance. One thing most people here seem to be missing is that nobody that's not a programmer communicates directly with the OS. For example, you don't use DOS; you use command.com, which uses DOS for you. I don't have much experience with Win95, but I'd guess that Win95 and DOS 7 are the same thing, and you don't quit Windows, you merely switch from the graphical interface to the text interface, just as you can do with OS/2 or Windows NT, which nobody here has yet suggester are not real OSs. Also, in a response to an earlier suggestion that Win95 is not a real OS because you can run the graphical shell from the command-line shell using "win", I have to ask this: Why shouldn't "win" be the new command to switch to the graphical shell? It's certainly what most people would expect. -- /********************************************/ #define REAL_NAME "John Williams" #define E_MAIL "jo...@jove.acs.unt.edu" #define HOMEPAGE "http://www.unt.edu/~johnw" /*********************************************/ Quote of the day: Since we have to speak well of the dead, let's knock them while they're alive. -- John Sloan
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From: jo...@jove.acs.unt.edu (John Robert Williams) Subject: Re: Win95 a TRUE OS? Help a newbie! Date: 1995/07/21 Message-ID: <3unicf$t19@hermes.acs.unt.edu> X-Deja-AN: 106579339 distribution: world references: <3umd7a$m57@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> followup-to: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy organization: University of North Texas newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit