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In <3non9k$h...@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> ze...@ix.netcom.com (Alec)
writes: 
>
>In <cptstern.3...@Cyberquest.com> cpts...@Cyberquest.com
(Capt
>Stern) writes: 
>>
>>In article <D7DAJ...@caprica.com> jlu...@caprica.com (James
Lummel)
>writes:
>>>From: jlu...@caprica.com (James Lummel)
>>>Subject: Re: Win95 and games: good news...
>>>Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 04:16:25 GMT
>>
>>>Joshua Cyr (jm...@christa.unh.edu) wrote:
>>
>>>: I was told (by a good source) that even when you reboot to DOS,
>there is 
>>>: still the windows Kernel in the background.  Essentially, Windows
>95 is an 
>>>: operating system with something that looks like our old Dos... but
>it 
>>>: isn't our old DOS.  By the way, I have been using Win 95 for a few
>months 
>>>: now, and have been able to run everything just fine.  I am using
>(now get 
>>>: this)
>>
>>>: 486SX25, with 8MB Ram, sigh... it runs just as fast as windows
>runs, but 
>>>: the graphic routines are much much faster.  I play Herritic in a
>Win 95 
>>>: Dos window, with no slowdown, or problems at all.  Everything is
so
>easy 
>>>: to configure, I can't help but to love it.  A big improvement for
>game 
>>>: fans.  I haven't used OS/2, so I cant make a comparison though.
>>
>>>To see is to believe, add the 'C:\' to the front of your PATH in the

>>>autoexec.bat and drop a file called 'WIN.BAT' into C:\ and make the
>file 
>>>contain:
>>
>>>echo No Windows for You!!
>>
>>>(Only one line).
>>
>>>Then tool around to your heart's content in DOS.  Or (simpler)
choose
>>>'Shutdown' and choose 'Restart computer in DOS mode?'.  Now watch
for
>the
>>>restart, you won't see it.  What you will see is Windows exiting and
>>>running the REST of the autoexec.bat to load any extra device
drivers
>it
>>>needs under DOS. 
>>
>>>Here is what happens:
>>
>>>1. Cold boot, BIOS check
>>>2. Boot DOS
>>>3. DOS loads Windows
>>>4. Windows uses its own device drivers if available, if not, you
have
>to 
>>>preload them in the config.sys or autoexec.bat so they load when DOS
>loads.
>>>4A. Restart in DOS mode, run the DOS version of the device drivers
>that 
>>>Windows was using.
>>
>>>To illustrate, I have a PAS 16 with a SCSI Teac CD50 CDROM.  To use
>it 
>>>with Win'95, I don't have to load TSLCDR.SYS or MSCDEX.EXE, Windows
>has 
>>>native device drivers (which mean they are likely 32-bit).  To use
it
>
>>>under DOS, I have to load the drivers just like I would in MSDOS
6.2.
>>
>>>My girlfriend has an old Sony-Bus single speed CDROM and a PAS 16
>(SCSI 
>>>not used).  To use it with Win'95, I had to load the Sony driver and

>>>MSCDEX.EXE to get them to be used under Win'95.  Great thing is that

>>>using the DOS support, you still have Windows support, just like Win
>3.1.
>>
>>>The moral is, when you're not running Win'95, you're running Win'95
>DOS 
>>>and DOS is still DOS...  
>>
>>>
>>Well the DOS that is installed via WIN95 seemed pretty crippled.  And
>not all 
>>games work with it.
>>For example: MPS/Master of Magic & Master of Orion both failed to run
>with 
>>sound enabled.  The "new" dos is missing even basic features such as
>DELTREE,
>>XCOPY, etc.
>>I ran build 445 WIN95 for about 4 days, and then re-installed WFW
3.11
>& PC 
>>DOS 7.0.  More compatible, and that is the issue not how cool the OS
>looks, or 
>>how cool it runs.  Since an OS that runs really nice but won't run
>your 
>>software is just another way of describing the MAC & AMIGA's.
>>
>
>I think Win 95 is great... and it doesn't run on top of dos.  it just
>seems like it is loading dos in the beginning for backward
>compatibility.  
>
>And what do you mean Deltree and xcopy are gone??  you just haven't
>look or try it.  They are just moved to /windows/command/ directory.
>Next time open your eyes before you talk ;)

oh yeah, and WC3 works great under Win95 Dos box without any config.