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In <3oler0$5...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, mar...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (John Marconi) writes:

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>>Using modem while multitasking is *exactly* what many OS/2 users
>>switch to OS/2 for!  I routinely do 14.4k download while
>>multitasking without *any* problems.  E.g. I started The 7th Guest

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>Perhaps the problem was that I was using Windows Communications apps while trying to run
>a dos game on top of it.

I have read about people running Windows comm in OS/2 without
problems, ask in c.o.o.misc.  I use Telemate (DOS comm) to do
14.4k download in OS/2 while multitasking without any CRC errors,
CPU load roughly 15-20%.

>>I look forward to your Win95 games which will get 90% of games'
>>market (I would be interested to see how MS force those DOS gamers
>>to buy Win95 though).
>
>It has already been announced that Falcon 4.0 which will be a major
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>upgrade from Falcon 3.0 will be Win95 ONLY.  This is fairly significant

That's the key word here, "announced", still more vaporware.  As I
said, I will believe it when I see it.  Tell me about them when
you can buy them.

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>At this point, I have seen maybe 5 or 6 games in development
>specifically for OS/2.  I've tried GalCiv and it was pretty good.
>The point is though that I can count the number of developers for
>strictly OS/2 games on one hand.  Sure, there might be conversions

So what?  I can also count the number of developers for *strictly*
Win95 games on one hand (perhaps even no hand, did those
developers said they won't do DOS anymore?).  You can just find a
new game annoucement here or there, but the companies are not
abandoning DOS.

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>>If on the slim chance that your prediction is correct, I will buy
>>Win95 *then* (most bugs are probably patched by then).  What do I
>>lose?  Nothing.
>
>Do you honestly think that the chance is that slim?  Most people know

Yes, I do think that the chance for Win95 games dominating
completely as DOS games do now is slim.  A sizable chunk is
possible (50-60%), but >90%? not likely.

>that NT is going to be the future OS... It has jumped across many
>platforms and now onto Power PC (OS/2 was supposed to do that quite
>a while ago I thought).  MS is not going anywhere in terms of market
>share.  And, you and I both know that there will be a huge amount of
>games developed for Win95.

No, I don't know that there will be a huge amount of games
developed for Win95, I have yet to see even *one* that is more
than just a DOS port.  Perhaps you have a crystal ball showing you
the future, I don't have one.

Any Win95 games available?  Even Win95 is not available!  What's
the point of talking about Win95?  I can buy Win95 *if* it becomes
dominant.  I don't get any advantage buying Win95 this year (or
the next) except the satisfaction of being an unwilling beta
tester for MS.  You and I (and most gamers) know that 1.0 releases
are buggy, at least wait for the first patch before buying.

I use OS/2 now, because it's the best (IMHO) *now*, there are
games (both DOS and OS/2) available *now* that I can play.  When
OS/2 died and Win95 becomes dominant, I will buy it then to play
those *available* games, and I lose nothing in the process.

>>>When could you EVER multitask games in DOS or Win3.x?  You never could!
>>>It is true that Win95 multitasking of DOS is not very quick but it serves
>>>its purpose.
>>
>>Huh?  My point is running ONE DOS app will slowdown the whole
>>*Win95* system.  If that's good enough for you fine, I will stick
>>with OS/2 which *can* multitask DOS apps *without* the whole
>>system slowing down.
>
>And you can't do that in Win95.  It just takes a little bit of
>setting up to do.  But then again OS/2 never takes any setting up
>to make DOS games work, does it?

But then again, DOS never takes any setting up to make DOS games
work, does it?

The point is it takes *less* work in OS/2 to set up a game than
DOS: no bootdisk, no messing around to get that little bit more
conventional memory (I get 638704 bytes of conventional memory in
OS/2's DOS box by just loading DOS high), I can even run a game
that requires *more* memory than I physically have.  And once set
up, I can run it (and multitask) any time without rebooting.

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Oliver Chung
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