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In <3ogvov$7...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, mar...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (John Marconi) writes:
>>>>>|> You're SLIGHTLY right. Part of Windows is still 16-bit. But, it's
>mostly
>>>>>|> 32-bit code now. It has pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading,
>>>
>>>WAIT A MINUTE!!! - I thought preemptive multitasking was one of the things
>>>that WIN95 was not going to include....I've run the beta and was not
>>>too impressed with the speed of thread changing, if it's preemptive...
>>>
>>>HMMMMM.
>>It still cooperatively multitask Win16 apps, and due to the
>>Win16mutex(sp?), a single Win16 apps can slowdown the whole system
>>just like in Win3.x.  So, unless you mainly run DOS apps in
>>Windows or buy a whole bunch of new apps, you won't get much
>>benefit in terms of multitasking.
>
>I am not sure how much they plan to change on the Beta for Win 95 now but
>I do know that MS is planning to make NT and win 95 come closer and closer
>until they become one product.  Windows NT is a much better Multi-tasker
>than Windows 3.1, OS/2, or Windows 95... but if Windows 95 begins to act
>more and more like NT, we will see true benefits of multitasking and
>multithreading.

Not quite from what I heard.  From all accounts in c.o.o.a, Win95
is a dead end (even Win advocates there don't deny it), and NT is
the way MS wants you to go.  That's why they are forcing NT
compatibility on Win95 developers (you need to make sure you Win95
apps runs in NT in order to get the Win95 sticker), and that's why
they will put Win95's interface in NT a year or two later (Isn't
it great to have you guys pay to test the new interface for MS?).

Changing the Win16 subsystem in Win95 from cooperative to
preemptive is too big a change to do in beta, and they have only
a few months to so even if they want.  No, the cooperative nature
of Win16 system is not going to change in Win95.  Expect to
upgrade again to NT a year or two later if you buy Win95 now.

As for NT being a better multitasker than OS/2, I don't think so.
It's probably more robust (thus resulting in less DOS/Win and
hardware compatibility than OS/2), but the efficiency in
multitasking is probably similar for both.

*** And back to the whole point of this thread: GAMES ***

NT is not a games platform (at least for a couple more years),
Win95 is not available yet, no Win95 games is available yet.
OS/2 is here, OS/2 games are here, and more OS/2 games are coming
(and they are multithreaded too).

>I heard that the performance of
>>DOS apps is improved compared to running them in Win3.x.
>
>DOS apps are improved compared to running them in DOS also as far as
>I have seen.

Not if you are running more than one at a time, a few Win95 beta
testers posted that one DOS app will slow down the whole system.

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Oliver Chung
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