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Started by mfvfiv
Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:30
M I.5'Persecution , purp ose in publ icizing it ; ce nsorship in u k.* ne wsgroups
Author: mfvfiv
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:30
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:30
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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -= purpose. in publicizing it; censorship in uk.* newsgroups -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The postings to uk.misc newsgroup generated a very. defensive reaction from Usenet readers in the UK.. So much so, that they tried strenuously to suppress what was being said, both by breaking the rules. of netiquette in their responses on the forum, and directly. by action to revoke the account from which the postings. were issued. Yet the postings. were within the normal boundaries of behaviour for uk.misc, and. other less partisan spectators did not see justice in the censorship which was. effected, as the following excerpt shows; :Karen Lofstrom (lofstrom@lava.net). wrote :>It does seem that the frequency and the size. of his posts are :>approaching net abuse. However, IMHO, they aren't quite. there yet. If :>his postmaster were to act in this instance, it. would raise troubling :>censorship. issues. The inescapable conclusion. of the censorship effected on the uk.* newsgroups is that the British are. intent on their wrongdoing remaining concealed, and therefore seek to subvert and. suppress freedom of speech, not only in their own country where the media shows xenophobic bias. and bile against all perceived enemies within and without,. but also in other countries which have their own statutes to guarantee the. basic human right of. free speech. It is absolutely necessary to bring their hate campaign out into the. open where it can be placed under scrutiny and the. harassers seen for what they are. That is the only way of making it impossible. for the security services to carry. it out. There is a wider dimension, though. Xenophobia as demonstrated by. British people and institutions over the last few years belongs. to the same stable as racial hatred. In one case, two youths on a Tube train. made that racism explicit by referring to their victim as a "soft toy, not up to British Standards". Doubtless others. victimize partly on the basis of race (isnΒt it odd that they chose to torment someone. who is not ethnically English?) while. expressing their abuse in terms of another genetic attribute, namely mental illness. All. xenophobia on a genetic basis is wrong, but while racial insults are illegal, abusing. the mentally ill. is neither against the law nor subject to similar condemnation when it is. exposed. 7001
Re: M I.5'Persecution , purp ose in publ icizing it ; ce nsorship in u k.* ne wsgroups
Author: Gene S. Park
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:43
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:43
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Piss off you paranoid git! <mfvfiv@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:ib0800011530447015@4ax.com... > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > -= purpose. in publicizing it; censorship in uk.* newsgroups -= > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > The postings to uk.misc newsgroup generated a very. defensive reaction > from > Usenet readers in the UK.. So much so, that they tried strenuously to > suppress what was being said, both by breaking the rules. of netiquette in > their responses on the forum, and directly. by action to revoke the > account > from which the postings. were issued. > > Yet the postings. were within the normal boundaries of behaviour for > uk.misc, and. other less partisan spectators did not see justice in the > censorship which was. effected, as the following excerpt shows; > > :Karen Lofstrom (lofstrom@lava.net). wrote > :>It does seem that the frequency and the size. of his posts are > :>approaching net abuse. However, IMHO, they aren't quite. there yet. If > :>his postmaster were to act in this instance, it. would raise troubling > :>censorship. issues. > > The inescapable conclusion. of the censorship effected on the uk.* > newsgroups is that the British are. intent on their wrongdoing remaining > concealed, and therefore seek to subvert and. suppress freedom of speech, > not only in their own country where the media shows xenophobic bias. and > bile against all perceived enemies within and without,. but also in other > countries which have their own statutes to guarantee the. basic human > right > of. free speech. > > It is absolutely necessary to bring their hate campaign out into the. open > where it can be placed under scrutiny and the. harassers seen for what > they > are. That is the only way of making it impossible. for the security > services > to carry. it out. There is a wider dimension, though. Xenophobia as > demonstrated by. British people and institutions over the last few years > belongs. to the same stable as racial hatred. In one case, two youths on a > Tube train. made that racism explicit by referring to their victim as a > "soft toy, not up to British Standards". Doubtless others. victimize > partly > on the basis of race (isn't it odd that they chose to torment someone. who > is not ethnically English?) while. expressing their abuse in terms of > another genetic attribute, namely mental illness. All. xenophobia on a > genetic basis is wrong, but while racial insults are illegal, abusing. the > mentally ill. is neither against the law nor subject to similar > condemnation > when it is. exposed. > > 7001 >
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