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I agree. The aliens in Apoc leave a lot to be desired. The Sectoids
from X-Com 1 were nice an cheesy, fitting the "generic alien that
abducted me" description, and the black ones with the nippers (whose
name escapes me now) DID frighten the shit out of me. Nothing scarier
than doing a terror mission at night, walking past a wall, turning to
see what's there and there's one standing right next to your man and
you have 2 time units left...

X-Com 1's the shit.

In all, I think Apoc could have been a much better game, but I'm glad
that time they even bothered making a NEW game, instead of re-boxing
the exact same game except with new graphics like they did with Terror
>From the Deep.

TFTD IS X-Com 1... every unit, every weapon and every structure has a
direct equivelant, except with a more nautical theme. I think it was
the lousiest hack job any gaming company has done, and if they're just
going to release a game without a touch of originality they shouldn't.

On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:56:35 -0700, "Jakob" <imma...@pacifier.com>
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>Well, it's mostly there in the subject. I think Apocalypse's aliens =
>sucked in comparison to UFO's aliens, in all capacities. I preferred the =
>art of UFO to Apocalypse, and the way the aliens work is just lame in =
>Apoc too. I mean, what's with half the aliens having built in guns? and =
>aliens that run up and EXPLODE on you? Unless it's incredibly cheap and =
>easy to clone those Poppers, no self respecting alien would bother with =
>them when heat seeking missile or even that alien proximity grenade =
>would do the trick.=20
>Also, the aliens just look goofy in Apoc. You got those big blue Cookie =
>Monster looking guys, and the stupid purple straw-head guys, and the Big =
>Birdish skeletoid guys, and the brainsucker things that really just =
>looked like little piggies.=20
>The only cool alien is the giant worm thing, and I don't see why or even =
>how that thing shoots green crap. It would make more sense for it to =
>just run up and munch on you. And would look cooler too. I kinda like =
>how it pops open and makes little aliens.=20
>The brainsuckers are dumb. What we really need is to have those big =
>black insect guys from UFO back. Those things were very close to truly =
>terrifying, at least for me. The alien I miss the most is the Sectoid, =
>though. Sectoids rock. They are SO necessary. and Mutons. And Snakemen. =
>Well, that's my main gripe.
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><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The brainsuckers are dumb. What we =
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Chryssalid! That's the one! :)
Finally remembered.

On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:48:06 GMT, ufo8...@octa4.net.au (UFO8MYCAT)
wrote:

>I agree. The aliens in Apoc leave a lot to be desired. The Sectoids
>from X-Com 1 were nice an cheesy, fitting the "generic alien that
>abducted me" description, and the black ones with the nippers (whose
>name escapes me now) DID frighten the shit out of me. Nothing scarier
>than doing a terror mission at night, walking past a wall, turning to
>see what's there and there's one standing right next to your man and
>you have 2 time units left...
>
>X-Com 1's the shit.
>
>In all, I think Apoc could have been a much better game, but I'm glad
>that time they even bothered making a NEW game, instead of re-boxing
>the exact same game except with new graphics like they did with Terror
>>From the Deep.
>
>TFTD IS X-Com 1... every unit, every weapon and every structure has a
>direct equivelant, except with a more nautical theme. I think it was
>the lousiest hack job any gaming company has done, and if they're just
>going to release a game without a touch of originality they shouldn't.
>
>On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:56:35 -0700, "Jakob" <imma...@pacifier.com>
>wrote:
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>>Well, it's mostly there in the subject. I think Apocalypse's aliens =
>>sucked in comparison to UFO's aliens, in all capacities. I preferred the =
>>art of UFO to Apocalypse, and the way the aliens work is just lame in =
>>Apoc too. I mean, what's with half the aliens having built in guns? and =
>>aliens that run up and EXPLODE on you? Unless it's incredibly cheap and =
>>easy to clone those Poppers, no self respecting alien would bother with =
>>them when heat seeking missile or even that alien proximity grenade =
>>would do the trick.=20
>>Also, the aliens just look goofy in Apoc. You got those big blue Cookie =
>>Monster looking guys, and the stupid purple straw-head guys, and the Big =
>>Birdish skeletoid guys, and the brainsucker things that really just =
>>looked like little piggies.=20
>>The only cool alien is the giant worm thing, and I don't see why or even =
>>how that thing shoots green crap. It would make more sense for it to =
>>just run up and munch on you. And would look cooler too. I kinda like =
>>how it pops open and makes little aliens.=20
>>The brainsuckers are dumb. What we really need is to have those big =
>>black insect guys from UFO back. Those things were very close to truly =
>>terrifying, at least for me. The alien I miss the most is the Sectoid, =
>>though. Sectoids rock. They are SO necessary. and Mutons. And Snakemen. =
>>Well, that's my main gripe.
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>>capacities. I=20
>>preferred the art of UFO to Apocalypse, and the way the aliens work is =
>>just lame=20
>>in Apoc too. I mean, what's with half the aliens having built in guns? =
>>and=20
>>aliens that run up and EXPLODE on you? Unless it's incredibly cheap and =
>>easy to=20
>>clone those Poppers, no self respecting alien would bother with them =
>>when heat=20
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>>Apoc. You=20
>>got those big blue Cookie Monster looking guys, and the stupid purple =
>>straw-head=20
>>guys, and the Big Birdish skeletoid guys, and the brainsucker things =
>>that really=20
>>just looked like little piggies. </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The only cool alien is the giant =
>>worm thing, and=20
>>I don't see why or even how that thing shoots green crap. It would make =
>>more=20
>>sense for it to just run up and munch on you. And would look cooler too. =
>>I kinda=20
>>like how it pops open and makes little aliens. </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The brainsuckers are dumb. What we =
>>really need=20
>>is to have those big black insect guys from UFO back. Those things were =
>>very=20
>>close to truly terrifying, at least for me. The alien I miss the most is =
>>the=20
>>Sectoid, though. Sectoids rock. They are SO necessary. and Mutons. And =
>>Snakemen.=20
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    "The brainsuckers are dumb. What we really need is to have those big
black insect guys from UFO back. Those things were very close to truly
terrifying, at least for me. The alien I miss the most is the Sectoid,
though. Sectoids rock. They are SO necessary. and Mutons. And Snakemen.
Well, that's my main gripe."

    Yeah,  I love those Crycrassid (how to spell that thing)!!  When they
walk up to my guy/gal I can get ghost pumps because the sight is so
distrubing to see,  they are nasty and planting seeds in your boy/girl's
body and squish, their former body splited up and a new cryssid is born.

    But the Third installation seem to be a lot high tech to me thou.
    I still love it.


    Vic

UFO8MYCAT (ufo8...@octa4.net.au) wrote:
: I agree. The aliens in Apoc leave a lot to be desired. The Sectoids
: from X-Com 1 were nice an cheesy, fitting the "generic alien that
: abducted me" description, and the black ones with the nippers (whose
: name escapes me now) DID frighten the shit out of me. Nothing scarier
: than doing a terror mission at night, walking past a wall, turning to
: see what's there and there's one standing right next to your man and
: you have 2 time units left...

: X-Com 1's the shit.

: In all, I think Apoc could have been a much better game, but I'm glad
: that time they even bothered making a NEW game, instead of re-boxing
: the exact same game except with new graphics like they did with Terror
: From the Deep.

: TFTD IS X-Com 1... every unit, every weapon and every structure has a
: direct equivelant, except with a more nautical theme. I think it was
: the lousiest hack job any gaming company has done, and if they're just
: going to release a game without a touch of originality they shouldn't.

Maybe so, but I still think it was better than Apoc. I'm sorry, but the
X-com guys running around in bright red jumpsuits was just lame. 

And, um, excuse me, but the aliens are only invading this one megacity?
What about the rest?

>And, um, excuse me, but the aliens are only invading this one megacity?
>What about the rest?

There's only one megacity.  Everyone else who lived in one went into outer
space...

Roger.Chapman wrote:
> 
> >And, um, excuse me, but the aliens are only invading this one megacity?
> >What about the rest?
> 
> There's only one megacity.  Everyone else who lived in one went into outer
> space...

There were other cities, but Mega-Primus was the first and greatest. 
See my other post on this subject!

Greenish_9

Joe Schulte wrote:
> 
> UFO8MYCAT (ufo8...@octa4.net.au) wrote:
> : I agree. The aliens in Apoc leave a lot to be desired. The Sectoids
> : from X-Com 1 were nice an cheesy, fitting the "generic alien that
> : abducted me" description, and the black ones with the nippers (whose
> : name escapes me now) DID frighten the shit out of me. Nothing scarier
> : than doing a terror mission at night, walking past a wall, turning to
> : see what's there and there's one standing right next to your man and
> : you have 2 time units left...

Hoho, we've all been there!
 
> : X-Com 1's the shit.
> 
> : In all, I think Apoc could have been a much better game, but I'm glad
> : that time they even bothered making a NEW game, instead of re-boxing
> : the exact same game except with new graphics like they did with Terror
> : From the Deep.

Mythos didn't make TFTD - they had nothing to do with it.  MPS
themselves made that one.
 
> : TFTD IS X-Com 1... every unit, every weapon and every structure has a
> : direct equivelant, except with a more nautical theme. I think it was
> : the lousiest hack job any gaming company has done, and if they're just
> : going to release a game without a touch of originality they shouldn't.

True enough.  But it did give fans what they wanted - more of the same!
 
> Maybe so, but I still think it was better than Apoc. I'm sorry, but the
> X-com guys running around in bright red jumpsuits was just lame.

I agree there...but remember the Mega-Primus aesthetics laws!  It
applies to people, as well as vehicles and buildings...
 
> And, um, excuse me, but the aliens are only invading this one megacity?
> What about the rest?

Mega-Primus is the capital - the first and the best of the cities.  The
others might have been mud shacks, for all we know!  I can just see it
now...

<shimmery>

Anthropod:  Great Queen, we have established control over Mega-Secundus.
Queen: Excellent!  Were casualties high?
Anthropod: Um...no, great Queen...resistance consisted of two one-legged
peasants and a child with a small stick.

</shimmery>

Greenish_9

>> UFO8MYCAT (ufo8...@octa4.net.au) wrote:
>> : I agree. The aliens in Apoc leave a lot to be desired. The Sectoids
>> : from X-Com 1 were nice an cheesy, fitting the "generic alien that
>> : abducted me" description, and the black ones with the nippers (whose
>> : name escapes me now) DID frighten the shit out of me. Nothing scarier
>> : than doing a terror mission at night, walking past a wall, turning to
>> : see what's there and there's one standing right next to your man and
>> : you have 2 time units left...
>
>Hoho, we've all been there!
>
Yes, I have too.  There's nothing worse than thinking an area's clear, so
you move your captain out to help out the scouting squads.  He moves as fast
as he can, but ends up face to face with a Chrysalid with 3TU left.  Arrrgh!

I HATE ALIENS WITH BLASTER BOMBS!

I was playing a base mission which wasn't going too well.  Mutons had
destroyed a small squad and the rest of my men had been forced back to a
single square and were taking pot shots at anything that appeared.
Suddenly, a blaster bomb is launched from the other side of the screen and
it bounces about and kills all my men.  Another mission, I pick up a
launcher and use it.  The shell slams straight into a wall, next to him,
even through the nearest waypoint was miles away!   Arrgh!

>
>There were other cities, but Mega-Primus was the first and greatest.
>See my other post on this subject!
>
>Greenish_9

I was there when you wrote them.  By the way, it was only an idea, calm
down.  I got the idea from a preview from a bad comp. magasine.

Roger.Chapman (Roger....@btinternet.com) wrote:

: >And, um, excuse me, but the aliens are only invading this one megacity?
: >What about the rest?

: There's only one megacity.  Everyone else who lived in one went into outer
: space...

Contrived. Poorly.

I liked it when the world was my playground.

Joe Schulte wrote in message <6uo9j3$5...@newsops.execpc.com>...
>Roger.Chapman (Roger....@btinternet.com) wrote:
>
>: >And, um, excuse me, but the aliens are only invading this one megacity?
>: >What about the rest?
>
>: There's only one megacity.  Everyone else who lived in one went into
outer
>: space...
>
>Contrived. Poorly.
>
>I liked it when the world was my playground.


It was only an idea, calm down.  I got the idea from a preview from a bad
comp. magasine.

Shaun Green wrote:
><shimmery>
>
>Anthropod:  Great Queen, we have established control over Mega-Secundus.
>Queen: Excellent!  Were casualties high?
>Anthropod: Um...no, great Queen...resistance consisted of two one-legged
>peasants and a child with a small stick.
>
></shimmery>

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!
I actually laughed out loud reading this one!

-Jakob