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On 5 Jan 1996, Phil Paradias wrote:

> Imperial star destroyer vs behemoth. With no fighters on either 
> side. Which ship do you think will win?

	(grin) 30 million gigajoules focused into one lancing point.  I 
think the Behemoth will take an STD easily.  =)

	But the Bohemoth vs. the Death Star?  Whew that would be too close
to call I think.  Probably the Death Star since the Bohemoth has 
paper-thin shields and armor.

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Columbia University in the City of New York
Department of Biological Sciences
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Thomas Russell Hong wrote:
> 
> On 5 Jan 1996, Phil Paradias wrote:
> 
> > Imperial star destroyer vs behemoth. With no fighters on either
> > side. Which ship do you think will win?
> 
>         (grin) 30 million gigajoules focused into one lancing point.  I
> think the Behemoth will take an STD easily.  =)
> I thought it was 500 million gigajoules at maxiumum, which would be all
the more destructive.

>         But the Bohemoth vs. the Death Star?  Whew that would be too close
> to call I think.  Probably the Death Star since the Bohemoth has
> paper-thin shields and armor.
> Well, assuming that this is the same Behemoth as in WCIII and not one that's
been actually well-prepared and fully outfitted, it's still doubtful that
the Death Star would have much of a chance. If the ranges of their main
guns are simialar, then the Death Star should take a longer time to lock
on to a moving target (even if it is as big as the Behemoth) while it
would be rather hard for the Behemoth to miss something as big as the
Death Star.

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Evan

Thomas Russell Hong <th...@columbia.edu> wrote:

>On 5 Jan 1996, Phil Paradias wrote:

>> Imperial star destroyer vs behemoth. With no fighters on either 
>> side. Which ship do you think will win?

>	(grin) 30 million gigajoules focused into one lancing point.  I 
>think the Behemoth will take an STD easily.  =)
Obviously.   The Victory could take a STD.

>	But the Bohemoth vs. the Death Star?  Whew that would be too close
>to call I think.  Probably the Death Star since the Bohemoth has 
>paper-thin shields and armor.

I'd say that both the Behemoth and the Death Star could kill each
other in one shot, so it just matters which one fires first.

In <4cjncb$p...@news.worldlinx.com> Phil Paradias
<ppar...@mail.bcs.ca> writes: 
>
>Imperial star destroyer vs behemoth. With no fighters on either 
>side. Which ship do you think will win?
>
Star destroyer. Simply because the Behemoth had weak shields and
limited defenses. As long as the destroyer stayed away from the
Behemoth's main cannon, it's cornacopia of lasers and ion cannons would
make short work of the behemoth.

Damien                       "Yes, I did have too much time on my
                                 hands tonight!"

Damien wrote:
> 
> In <4cjncb$p...@news.worldlinx.com> Phil Paradias
> <ppar...@mail.bcs.ca> writes:
> >
> >Imperial star destroyer vs behemoth. With no fighters on either
> >side. Which ship do you think will win?
> >
> Star destroyer. Simply because the Behemoth had weak shields and
> limited defenses. As long as the destroyer stayed away from the
> Behemoth's main cannon, it's cornacopia of lasers and ion cannons would
> make short work of the behemoth.
> The obvious problem here is that a Star Destroyer's weapons aren't nearly
as long-ranged as the Behemoth's main gun. As long as they both start
relatively far away, it's no competition. Even if they start within each
other's weapons ranges (which seems really close for a SD) then the Behemoth
could definitely get off a shot before being destroyed by those pathetic
SW lasers.

> Damien                       "Yes, I did have too much time on my
>                                  hands tonight!"

Evan

In <30EF7E...@nwu.edu> Evan Kaiser <core...@nwu.edu> writes: 
>> The obvious problem here is that a Star Destroyer's weapons aren't
nearly
>as long-ranged as the Behemoth's main gun. As long as they both start
>relatively far away, it's no competition. Even if they start within
each
>other's weapons ranges (which seems really close for a SD) then the
Behemoth
>could definitely get off a shot before being destroyed by those
pathetic
>SW lasers.

Didn't it take the Behemoth a looooong time to charge up its main
weapon?  Like, long enough for the STD to maneuver around the Behemoth?
Course, I dunno...the Behemoth, for all its size, still might not be as
big as the STD...do they ever give length/width/beam measurements of
the Behemoth?

-- 
Lee Hutchinson
Poke...@ix.netcom.com
"One hundred and six miles to Chicago; we got a full tank of gas, a half-
pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."

"Hit it."

Lee Hutchinson wrote:
> 
> In <30EF7E...@nwu.edu> Evan Kaiser <core...@nwu.edu> writes:
> >> The obvious problem here is that a Star Destroyer's weapons aren't
> nearly
> >as long-ranged as the Behemoth's main gun. As long as they both start
> >relatively far away, it's no competition. Even if they start within
> each
> >other's weapons ranges (which seems really close for a SD) then the
> Behemoth
> >could definitely get off a shot before being destroyed by those
> pathetic
> >SW lasers.
> 
> Didn't it take the Behemoth a looooong time to charge up its main
> weapon?  Like, long enough for the STD to maneuver around the Behemoth?
> Course, I dunno...the Behemoth, for all its size, still might not be as
> big as the STD...do they ever give length/width/beam measurements of
> the Behemoth?
> 

It never really said that the gun needed to be charged, just that it
needed LOTS of fuel to power. I think the Behemoth was way bigger than
a star destroyer. I mean, remember the jump sequence where Victory looked
like a little fighter compared to it? And I thought Victory ws 700 meters
or so long. I was under the impression that a Star Destroyer was about a
kilometer long or so, so that means Behemoth would easily be bigger than
a Super Star Destroyer.

> Lee Hutchinson
> Poke...@ix.netcom.com
> "One hundred and six miles to Chicago; we got a full tank of gas, a half-
> pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."
> 
> "Hit it."

Evan

In <30F029...@nwu.edu> Evan Kaiser <core...@nwu.edu> writes: 
>It never really said that the gun needed to be charged, just that it
>needed LOTS of fuel to power. I think the Behemoth was way bigger than
>a star destroyer. I mean, remember the jump sequence where Victory
looked
>like a little fighter compared to it? And I thought Victory ws 700
meters
>or so long. I was under the impression that a Star Destroyer was about
a
>kilometer long or so, so that means Behemoth would easily be bigger
than
>a Super Star Destroyer.

A Star Destoyer is 1600 meters, or 1.6 kilometers, or a bit over 3/4 of
a mile (if I remember my conversions right).  The Executor (the Super
Star Destroyer), however, is at LEAST twenty miles long, maybe more.  I
mean, in _Jedi_, when you see it next to all the other STD's, it's
ENORMOUS...the Behemoth may well be over a mile long, but there's no
WAY it's as big as the Executor.

-- 
Lee Hutchinson
Poke...@ix.netcom.com
"One hundred and six miles to Chicago; we got a full tank of gas, a half-
pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."

"Hit it."

In article <30F029...@nwu.edu>, Evan Kaiser <core...@nwu.edu> wrote:

>Lee Hutchinson wrote:
>> 
>> Do they ever give length/width/beam measurements of
>> the Behemoth?

I think that the Behemoth is about 2 kilometers in length.

>Evan

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On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote:

> I think that the Behemoth is about 2 kilometers in length.

	Hmm... Probably even bigger than that.  The Victory next to it 
looks absolutely tiny, and the carrier is supposed to be 700 meters long 
already.

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skre...@usa1.com (Andrew Paul) wrote:

>Thomas Russell Hong <th...@columbia.edu> wrote:

>>On 5 Jan 1996, Phil Paradias wrote:

>>> Imperial star destroyer vs behemoth. With no fighters on either 
>>> side. Which ship do you think will win?

>>	(grin) 30 million gigajoules focused into one lancing point.  I 
>>think the Behemoth will take an STD easily.  =)
>Obviously.   The Victory could take a STD.

>>	But the Bohemoth vs. the Death Star?  Whew that would be too close
>>to call I think.  Probably the Death Star since the Bohemoth has 
>>paper-thin shields and armor.

>I'd say that both the Behemoth and the Death Star could kill each
>other in one shot, so it just matters which one fires first.

This is a stupid comparison. Put your Bohek#$#$% up against the
Deathstar and then see what happens and forget about the TCS Victory.
Jan-Pieter Oosterom -SW fan

On Fri, 12 Jan 1996 09:26:33 GMT, J.P.Oo...@Inter.NL.net
(Jan-Pieter Oosterom) wrote:

>skre...@usa1.com (Andrew Paul) wrote:
>
>>Thomas Russell Hong <th...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>
>>>On 5 Jan 1996, Phil Paradias wrote:
>
>>>> Imperial star destroyer vs behemoth. With no fighters on either 
>>>> side. Which ship do you think will win?
>
>>>	(grin) 30 million gigajoules focused into one lancing point.  I 
>>>think the Behemoth will take an STD easily.  =)
>>Obviously.   The Victory could take a STD.
>
>>>	But the Bohemoth vs. the Death Star?  Whew that would be too close
>>>to call I think.  Probably the Death Star since the Bohemoth has 
>>>paper-thin shields and armor.
>
Who cares about paper-thin shield?  Heck, both of them have the
firepower to destroy a planet!  Shield strenght is absolutely
irrelevent.

>>I'd say that both the Behemoth and the Death Star could kill each
>>other in one shot, so it just matters which one fires first.

I'd say the Behemoth will win (if they don't destroy each other)
because the Behemoth have a much greater mobility.  So the Behemoth
might at least have a slim chance to dodge the shot.

Eddie