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"Christopher Reid" <CReid1701@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Happy Birthday Wing Commander 3.  Here's to the next ten years.
>

I feel old reading this.. really really old. And at 23 I shouldn't feel
that!!
I was just thinking the other day I really should pull out WC3 again and
give it another go. Was easily my favourite WC game.

ajc wrote:
> "Christopher Reid" <CReid1701@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:f1vir0lhremhcr10po89ur5lsn0bqoeu4d@4ax.com...
> 
>>Happy Birthday Wing Commander 3.  Here's to the next ten years.
>>
> 
> 
> I feel old reading this.. really really old. And at 23 I shouldn't feel
> that!!
> I was just thinking the other day I really should pull out WC3 again and
> give it another go. Was easily my favourite WC game.
> 
> 
Ack.  You think you're old.  I'm 45 and still gaming.  I will be firing 
up wc1,2,3,4 as soon as I finish setting up a PII with DOS 6.22, 
win98se.  I even have a functional voodoo2 with drivers!

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:08:05 +1100, "ajc" <bah_meh@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"Christopher Reid" <CReid1701@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:f1vir0lhremhcr10po89ur5lsn0bqoeu4d@4ax.com...
>> Happy Birthday Wing Commander 3.  Here's to the next ten years.
>
>I feel old reading this.. really really old. And at 23 I shouldn't feel
>that!!

Me too.  I keep track of a bunch of things like this, and it's sometimes
sad to note that I don't have as much time to play as I used to and it's
not as easy for new people to get into these games.

>I was just thinking the other day I really should pull out WC3 again and
>give it another go. Was easily my favourite WC game.

Yeah, I'm not sure where to restart, because I wouldn't have time to go
through everything. WC2 or WC3 probably.

In article <10rkps2lmrsmn24@corp.supernews.com>,
Beowulf  <edkchem@netscape.net> wrote:
>ajc wrote:
>> "Christopher Reid" <CReid1701@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:f1vir0lhremhcr10po89ur5lsn0bqoeu4d@4ax.com...
>> 
>>>Happy Birthday Wing Commander 3.  Here's to the next ten years.
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> I feel old reading this.. really really old. And at 23 I shouldn't feel
>> that!!
>> I was just thinking the other day I really should pull out WC3 again and
>> give it another go. Was easily my favourite WC game.
>> 
>> 
>Ack.  You think you're old.  I'm 45 and still gaming.  I will be firing 
>up wc1,2,3,4 as soon as I finish setting up a PII with DOS 6.22, 
>win98se.  I even have a functional voodoo2 with drivers!

Hmm. Maybe there IS a reason to keep my wife's old PII-266 w/ DOS & MGA
Millenium :-)

Mattias

Beowulf wrote:
> Ack.  You think you're old.  I'm 45 and still gaming.  I will be firing 
> up wc1,2,3,4 as soon as I finish setting up a PII with DOS 6.22, 
> win98se.  I even have a functional voodoo2 with drivers!

Dont forget a program to slow down the PC or WC 1 and 2 will be 
unplayable. I remember the first time i tried WC 2 on a Celeron 400, 
damn that was fast, hehe.

And the only Wing Commander which need the voodoo 2 is Wing Commander 
Prophecy or not?

Markus

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:37:44 +0100, Markus Barth <mar.5d@new-wen.net>
wrote:

> Beowulf wrote:
> > Ack.  You think you're old.  I'm 45 and still gaming.  I will be firing 
> > up wc1,2,3,4 as soon as I finish setting up a PII with DOS 6.22, 
> > win98se.  I even have a functional voodoo2 with drivers!
> 
> Dont forget a program to slow down the PC or WC 1 and 2 will be 
> unplayable. I remember the first time i tried WC 2 on a Celeron 400, 
> damn that was fast, hehe.
> 
> And the only Wing Commander which need the voodoo 2 is Wing Commander 
> Prophecy or not?

Prophecy and Secret Ops (WCP follow-up), and even then there was only
2 and 1 (respectively) graphics feature that non-Voodoo machines
couldn't do, so it wasn't all that terrible a loss, at least IMO.

SubCrid Death
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:37:44 +0100, Markus Barth <mar.5d@new-wen.net>
wrote:

>Beowulf wrote:
>> Ack.  You think you're old.  I'm 45 and still gaming.  I will be firing 
>> up wc1,2,3,4 as soon as I finish setting up a PII with DOS 6.22, 
>> win98se.  I even have a functional voodoo2 with drivers!
>
>Dont forget a program to slow down the PC or WC 1 and 2 will be 
>unplayable. I remember the first time i tried WC 2 on a Celeron 400, 
>damn that was fast, hehe.

If you can get your hands on the Windows 95 port of the first two games,
you won't have any speed problems.  (Of course, they're just as available
as the dos version.)

Death wrote:

> Prophecy and Secret Ops (WCP follow-up), and even then there was only
> 2 and 1 (respectively) graphics feature that non-Voodoo machines
> couldn't do, so it wasn't all that terrible a loss, at least IMO.

WCP/SO/UE are also very Glide Wrapper friendly. So if you want that 
feature(s) just use one...

--
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the planned Windows 2001:
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Markus Barth wrote:
> Beowulf wrote:
> 
>> Ack.  You think you're old.  I'm 45 and still gaming.  I will be 
>> firing up wc1,2,3,4 as soon as I finish setting up a PII with DOS 
>> 6.22, win98se.  I even have a functional voodoo2 with drivers!
> 
> 
> Dont forget a program to slow down the PC or WC 1 and 2 will be 
> unplayable. I remember the first time i tried WC 2 on a Celeron 400, 
> damn that was fast, hehe.
> 
> And the only Wing Commander which need the voodoo 2 is Wing Commander 
> Prophecy or not?
> 
> Markus

You could always use DOSBox... All the early WC games work fine on it, 
so there's no need to keep an old PC around anymore.

http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/

Patryk

Patryk W > wrote:
> Markus Barth wrote:
> 
>> Beowulf wrote:
>>
>>> Ack.  You think you're old.  I'm 45 and still gaming.  I will be 
>>> firing up wc1,2,3,4 as soon as I finish setting up a PII with DOS 
>>> 6.22, win98se.  I even have a functional voodoo2 with drivers!
>>
>>
>>
>> Dont forget a program to slow down the PC or WC 1 and 2 will be 
>> unplayable. I remember the first time i tried WC 2 on a Celeron 400, 
>> damn that was fast, hehe.
>>
>> And the only Wing Commander which need the voodoo 2 is Wing Commander 
>> Prophecy or not?
>>
>> Markus
> 
> 
> You could always use DOSBox... All the early WC games work fine on it, 
> so there's no need to keep an old PC around anymore.
> 
> http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Patryk

dosbox is a commendable effort to keep the older games alive.  Its 
problem is in the graphics emulation.  Vesa graphics just doesn't cut 
for me for WC and the sound emul is still a bit weak.  For WC III, WCIV, 
WCP, the voodoo 2 is the way to go using a real soundblaster card; 
dx/d3d just wasn't very good back when these games were out. The PC I 
built from odd parts, other peoples discards, is a kick-ass state of the 
art system for 1995 ($50 total):
Intel PII400, 440BX chipset
128MB
ELSA TNT2 32MB AGP
STB voodoo2
SB PCI128
20GB HD
DOS 6.22, Win98se, Slackware Linux 10

Just the thing to run WC - and I don't have to fight to get an DOS 
emulator running (I have MAME32, N64, Sega Genesis emuls running on it 
as well).  I ran WCP in WIn98 and Win2K with a Geforce DDR, ad later 
with a G4ti4800, and the graphics qual is not as good as with the 
voodoo2 and some graphics setting are not available (eg lens flare). 
I used a glide to OPENGL wrapper as well in win2k but the wrapper is 
prone to crash.

Besides, the kids can use it to surf, IM and do homework so they don't 
hog my main system!