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Article #17777Re: Directx 3 "upsets" existing DOS mode games
From: d... David L Webster
Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 00:00
Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 00:00
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On Thu, 8 May 97 09:02:00 +1100, ch...@vci.com.au (Chris Rogers) wrote: >>>The DOS version of Win95 is just fine for games. There really is no >>>need for DOS6.22 if you have Win95. You do not run DOS games >>>in a DOS window. In some cases (like back to baghdad) you can > >Well, not usually, but there *ARE* times when it is helpful to get >back to old DOS. I have 2 Pentiums at home, and have found that on >one of them, Duke3D runs much smoother under old DOS. There are >also other games that will not run under anything BUT old DOS/WINDOWS. > >>>As for DirectX 3 messing up DOS games... No way. Anyone >>>who thinks otherwise does not understand what is going on >>>with DOS/Win95. Period. Sorry to be blunt but that is how it >>>is. > >hmm..... I am sorry but my newsserver has not got the start of this >thread - hence I have missed the DirectX connection. >But as far as DOS 6.22 is concerned, I hate to be just as blunt, >but anyone who says that OLD DOS is NEVER needed just has no >clues at all either. > >$0.02 > >Chris > Well, since August of '95 I dumped 'OLD DOS' and have never needed it for anything since that time, and I still run LOTS of old DOS programs. Outside of a little bigger 'footprint' in conventional memory, DOS 7 is just a minor upgrade from DOS 6.22. Granted, there are old Windows 3.x apps that don't run under Win95, but I have yet to find a DOS program that doesn't work under DOS 7 when running in single mode. Some DOS programs, of course, don't like to run in a DOS session, but that is the same problem that existed under Win3.x. Right now, I'm doing some contract computer work for the US Postal Service (and I've found that contrary to popular belief, they are very nice people). They are in the process of converting from DOS 6.21/Win31 to Win95 throughout the entire country (I'm doing it now at one of the larger mail facilities with about 400 workstations). Now the old DOS programs they use work fine, but some older Win31 apps don't. Since they run Win31 as a network setup, it's run it off a Novell file server. Now though, they want to have Win95 installed completely local on every machine (which is creating some IS management headaches). So now they run Win95/DOS 7 and when they need old win apps, they run Win 31, BUT they are actually running it from DOS 7 not 6.21. This is not the standard Win95 dual boot method, since they don't have Win31 loaded locally and they didn't want to have to fool around with two versions of DOS. We've found that DOS 7 runs the old DOS apps and Windows 3.1 with no problems at all. The facts are, Win95 is Windows 4 and DOS 7. If you ever used DOS 6.22 and Windows for Workgroups 3.11, then you basically have used the beta of Win95, the relationships between Win95/DOS7 are the same as WFW311/DOS622. If you get a chance, pick up Andrew Schulmans 'Unathorized Windows 95', it cuts through the hype and shows Win95 for what it is, which is a Win311/DOS622 upgrade.
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From: d...@bridge.net (David L Webster) Subject: Re: Directx 3 "upsets" existing DOS mode games Date: 1997/05/08 Message-ID: <3371cb45.34347177@news.bridge.net> X-Deja-AN: 240204571 References: <01bc4912$3e2ff2e0$2568adce@crc3.concentric.net> <33524edf.990813@news.gabn.net> <01bc46e9$2e278f00$02551dcb@COMPUTER1> <33555055.5365121@news.bridge.net> <oMiczAPBBh107h@vci.com.au> Organization: BridgeNet LC, Miami Florida Newsgroups: alt.games.wing-commander,aus.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit