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Article #160840Re: Wing Commander 6 coming soon
From: Ineedmoney
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:35
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:35
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"Death" <look@my.reply-to.address> wrote in message news:Zwbzb.374$g97.332@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 01:31:08 -0000, "Ineedmoney" > <mail@atmycomputer.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > "Kevin Scholl" <kscholl@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:kuadnXyg_LcWB1eiRVn-jg@comcast.com... > > > Oh, Lord, here we go again. Secret Ops was a stand-alone game, and > > > therefore is not "pt2" of anything. > > > > But it "feels" like an addon. You cant argue with that, can you? > > Why, because it uses a modified version of the WCP engine? WC4 was a > modified WC3 engine, but most people don't claim the former is an > add-on to the latter. Thats because WC4 is is a LOT different to WC3 in more ways than just the graphics, but WC Secret Ops just LOOKS like an addon to WCP instead of a whole new game like WC4 was to WC3, or WC3 was to WC2. The following is my reasoning; Basically, WC3 brought more to the Wing Commander Universe because of the movies and lot of other extras that I shouldnt have to tell you about. WC4 was quite different to Wc3 in its HEAVY use and huge budget for the movies. Wc4 made you feel like you were choosing missions and your own destiny, an illusion of course... but still another step up from Wc3. WCProphecy decided to upgrade the graphics, which was a big step up. However, they didn't use so much video, which some people can debate as to if this hindered the game. Nevertheless it was obviously not just an addon for Wc4. - As for Secret Ops, it didn't have ANY video, all cinematics were ingame rendered. It didnt have ANY prerendred CGI. I didnt have ANY character models and all the character interaction happened in flight, for example with a in-game graphical sequence showing your ship and the voices of the characters which you couldn't even see. There was no noticable improvment on the graphics, except improving and adding some additional weapons. The ONLY thing I think Secret Ops innovated was an improvement on character interaction in-game, which was welcomes but not enough for me to consider it a whole new game like Wc3, Wc4 and WcP are. All WC games, at least since Wc2 have been very innovative, at least in the wing commander series anyway, but Secret Ops doesnt seem to provide anything additional that we didnt already see in Prophecy. If anything, it removed much because of their budget. Therefore I see Secret Ops as an Add-On to Prophecy than a totally new game that Prophecy was to Wing 4, for example. It was still fun to play, and it wasnt bad but I still see it as an addon. > As for being able to argue with it, yes someone can. Like with all > subjective opinions (regardless of my opinion regarding the logic > behind it) though, doing so is an exercise in mental masturbation, at > best. Sure, its subjective. But thats (see above) my reasons for thinking what I do. Ed
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