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In <9prv2bltb0469iadk...@4ax.com> Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> writes:

> I have a dual boot consisting of Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit and ubuntu
> 15.04. 

> I spent some time researching how to get the game working in linux.
> Upgrading wine got the game to load, but in the linux version there are no
> addons, and not even an addon entry in the top-level menu.

> During my research, I read that you can actually copy your Windows game
> folders into their proper place in the wine/drive_c folder, which I did,
> and my addons are there. Why doesn't the game see them?

Did you quit and restart the game after copying the folder?

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On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 21:53:41 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon <gor...@panix.com>
wrote:

>In <9prv2bltb0469iadk...@4ax.com> Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> writes:
>
>> I have a dual boot consisting of Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit and ubuntu
>> 15.04. 
>
>> I spent some time researching how to get the game working in linux.
>> Upgrading wine got the game to load, but in the linux version there are no
>> addons, and not even an addon entry in the top-level menu.
>
>> During my research, I read that you can actually copy your Windows game
>> folders into their proper place in the wine/drive_c folder, which I did,
>> and my addons are there. Why doesn't the game see them?
>
>Did you quit and restart the game after copying the folder?

Yes - multiple times. The game was not running when I copied the files.

Tom

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In message <2t403b5d7392doolp...@4ax.com> 
  Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 21:53:41 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon <gor...@panix.com>
> wrote:

>>In <9prv2bltb0469iadk...@4ax.com> Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> I have a dual boot consisting of Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit and ubuntu
>>> 15.04. 
>>
>>> I spent some time researching how to get the game working in linux.
>>> Upgrading wine got the game to load, but in the linux version there are no
>>> addons, and not even an addon entry in the top-level menu.
>>
>>> During my research, I read that you can actually copy your Windows game
>>> folders into their proper place in the wine/drive_c folder, which I did,
>>> and my addons are there. Why doesn't the game see them?
>>
>>Did you quit and restart the game after copying the folder?

> Yes - multiple times. The game was not running when I copied the files.

The only things I can think of are pretty obvious.

Permissions, proper folder tree, ACLs, and line endings.

(or does wine cover differing line endings in text files between windows
and Linux?)


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On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:42:35 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <2t403b5d7392doolp...@4ax.com> 
>  Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 21:53:41 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon <gor...@panix.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>>In <9prv2bltb0469iadk...@4ax.com> Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>> I have a dual boot consisting of Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit and ubuntu
>>>> 15.04. 
>>>
>>>> I spent some time researching how to get the game working in linux.
>>>> Upgrading wine got the game to load, but in the linux version there are no
>>>> addons, and not even an addon entry in the top-level menu.
>>>
>>>> During my research, I read that you can actually copy your Windows game
>>>> folders into their proper place in the wine/drive_c folder, which I did,
>>>> and my addons are there. Why doesn't the game see them?
>>>
>>>Did you quit and restart the game after copying the folder?
>
>> Yes - multiple times. The game was not running when I copied the files.
>
>The only things I can think of are pretty obvious.
>
>Permissions, proper folder tree, ACLs, and line endings.
>
>(or does wine cover differing line endings in text files between windows
>and Linux?)

I have no idea about the inner workings of wine. I've only been using linux
for about a month.

Acting on information I found online, I copied the entire WoW folder tree
from my Windows setup to the proper place in my linux .wine drive_c folder.
The game works perfectly, except for the fact that I have no addons. All
files and folders in the copied tree have rwx permissions. 

It's a total mystery to me.

Tom

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Tom Hall wrote:
> Acting on information I found online, I copied the entire WoW folder
> tree from my Windows setup to the proper place in my linux .wine
> drive_c folder.  The game works perfectly, except for the fact that
> I have no addons. All files and folders in the copied tree have rwx
> permissions.

Do you use Dropbox? If so, and have set it up in both Windows and
Linux, try moving your Windows setup's World of Warcraft/WTF/Account
directory into Dropbox, then create a symbolic link for the directory
from Dropbox as World of Warcraft/WTF/Account in both Windows and
Linux, replacing what is there. Perhaps this will fix whatever issue
on the Linux side, and as a bonus any changes you make to addons or
character settings on one setup will be auto-mirrored on the
other. (Also backed up.) Any system settings, like for graphics, won't
be mirrored but you wouldn't want that anyway.

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In message <8na43b9ce0mtiorf2...@4ax.com> 
  Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:42:35 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>>In message <2t403b5d7392doolp...@4ax.com> 
>>  Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 21:53:41 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon <gor...@panix.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>In <9prv2bltb0469iadk...@4ax.com> Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a dual boot consisting of Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit and ubuntu
>>>>> 15.04. 
>>>>
>>>>> I spent some time researching how to get the game working in linux.
>>>>> Upgrading wine got the game to load, but in the linux version there are no
>>>>> addons, and not even an addon entry in the top-level menu.
>>>>
>>>>> During my research, I read that you can actually copy your Windows game
>>>>> folders into their proper place in the wine/drive_c folder, which I did,
>>>>> and my addons are there. Why doesn't the game see them?
>>>>
>>>>Did you quit and restart the game after copying the folder?
>>
>>> Yes - multiple times. The game was not running when I copied the files.
>>
>>The only things I can think of are pretty obvious.
>>
>>Permissions, proper folder tree, ACLs, and line endings.
>>
>>(or does wine cover differing line endings in text files between windows
>>and Linux?)

> I have no idea about the inner workings of wine. I've only been using linux
> for about a month.

> Acting on information I found online, I copied the entire WoW folder tree
> from my Windows setup to the proper place in my linux .wine drive_c folder.
> The game works perfectly, except for the fact that I have no addons. All
> files and folders in the copied tree have rwx permissions. 

Well, then maybe it is the line endings.

Windows uses different line endings than real computers, and all addons
are text files.

Windows uses both a CR and a LF at the end of a line. If you open up one
of the files in the addons and you see a ^M at the end of the lines,
then that is possibly the problem.

You would need to convert the text files to the right line endings.


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On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:47:18 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <8na43b9ce0mtiorf2...@4ax.com> 
>  Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:42:35 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
>> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>>>In message <2t403b5d7392doolp...@4ax.com> 
>>>  Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 21:53:41 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon <gor...@panix.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>In <9prv2bltb0469iadk...@4ax.com> Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a dual boot consisting of Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit and ubuntu
>>>>>> 15.04. 
>>>>>
>>>>>> I spent some time researching how to get the game working in linux.
>>>>>> Upgrading wine got the game to load, but in the linux version there are no
>>>>>> addons, and not even an addon entry in the top-level menu.
>>>>>
>>>>>> During my research, I read that you can actually copy your Windows game
>>>>>> folders into their proper place in the wine/drive_c folder, which I did,
>>>>>> and my addons are there. Why doesn't the game see them?
>>>>>
>>>>>Did you quit and restart the game after copying the folder?
>>>
>>>> Yes - multiple times. The game was not running when I copied the files.
>>>
>>>The only things I can think of are pretty obvious.
>>>
>>>Permissions, proper folder tree, ACLs, and line endings.
>>>
>>>(or does wine cover differing line endings in text files between windows
>>>and Linux?)
>
>> I have no idea about the inner workings of wine. I've only been using linux
>> for about a month.
>
>> Acting on information I found online, I copied the entire WoW folder tree
>> from my Windows setup to the proper place in my linux .wine drive_c folder.
>> The game works perfectly, except for the fact that I have no addons. All
>> files and folders in the copied tree have rwx permissions. 
>
>Well, then maybe it is the line endings.
>
>Windows uses different line endings than real computers, and all addons
>are text files.
>
>Windows uses both a CR and a LF at the end of a line. If you open up one
>of the files in the addons and you see a ^M at the end of the lines,
>then that is possibly the problem.
>
>You would need to convert the text files to the right line endings.

First, how do I check this in linux?

Second, assuming that the ^M is the problem, how do I fix it, short of
editing EVERY line in EVERY file? There are hundreds of them.

Tom

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In <vr173blkdg8eqti9o...@4ax.com> Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> writes:

> > You would need to convert the text files to the right line endings.

I kind of doubt this is the issue.  Surely the game uses other text files,
and as far as we know the game is not having any other issues.

> Second, assuming that the ^M is the problem, how do I fix it, short of
> editing EVERY line in EVERY file? There are hundreds of them.

Do you have the 'dos2unix' command on your computer?  If so, it's easy:

    cd <your addons directory>
    find . -type f | xargs dos2unix

If not, it's a little more complicated.  This sh script will do the job:

    find <your addons directory> -type f | while read filename
    do
        mv "$filename" "$filename".old
        tr -d "\15\32" < "$filename".old > "$filename"
    done
 
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:12:58 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon <gor...@panix.com>
wrote:

>> Second, assuming that the ^M is the problem, how do I fix it, short of
>> editing EVERY line in EVERY file? There are hundreds of them.
>
>Do you have the 'dos2unix' command on your computer?  If so, it's easy:
>
>    cd <your addons directory>
>    find . -type f | xargs dos2unix

This appeared to work (I had to install dos2unix), but you're right - it
doesn't make any difference - I still have no addons.

Which brings me to another problem with the linux installation: fps is the
PITS. In Windows I routinely get 75-100 fps, but in linux it's in the 10-30
range. 

lspci | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT200 [GeForce GTX
260] (rev a1)

This is where I get into trouble - I'm not a hardware person.

Tom

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Den 30-10-2015 kl. 23:00 skrev Tom Hall:

> Which brings me to another problem with the linux installation: fps is the
> PITS. In Windows I routinely get 75-100 fps, but in linux it's in the 10-30
> range.

WoW is coded for windows.  Not for wine running in a *nix environment. 
there are some tweaks here and there.  But dont expect any raid capable fps.

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In message <vr173blkdg8eqti9o...@4ax.com> 
  Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:47:18 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>>In message <8na43b9ce0mtiorf2...@4ax.com> 
>>  Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:42:35 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
>>> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>
>>>>In message <2t403b5d7392doolp...@4ax.com> 
>>>>  Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 21:53:41 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon <gor...@panix.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>In <9prv2bltb0469iadk...@4ax.com> Tom Hall <aria1946@gmail.com.invalid> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a dual boot consisting of Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit and ubuntu
>>>>>>> 15.04. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I spent some time researching how to get the game working in linux.
>>>>>>> Upgrading wine got the game to load, but in the linux version there are no
>>>>>>> addons, and not even an addon entry in the top-level menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During my research, I read that you can actually copy your Windows game
>>>>>>> folders into their proper place in the wine/drive_c folder, which I did,
>>>>>>> and my addons are there. Why doesn't the game see them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Did you quit and restart the game after copying the folder?
>>>>
>>>>> Yes - multiple times. The game was not running when I copied the files.
>>>>
>>>>The only things I can think of are pretty obvious.
>>>>
>>>>Permissions, proper folder tree, ACLs, and line endings.
>>>>
>>>>(or does wine cover differing line endings in text files between windows
>>>>and Linux?)
>>
>>> I have no idea about the inner workings of wine. I've only been using linux
>>> for about a month.
>>
>>> Acting on information I found online, I copied the entire WoW folder tree
>>> from my Windows setup to the proper place in my linux .wine drive_c folder.
>>> The game works perfectly, except for the fact that I have no addons. All
>>> files and folders in the copied tree have rwx permissions. 
>>
>>Well, then maybe it is the line endings.
>>
>>Windows uses different line endings than real computers, and all addons
>>are text files.
>>
>>Windows uses both a CR and a LF at the end of a line. If you open up one
>>of the files in the addons and you see a ^M at the end of the lines,
>>then that is possibly the problem.
>>
>>You would need to convert the text files to the right line endings.

> First, how do I check this in linux?

> Second, assuming that the ^M is the problem, how do I fix it, short of
> editing EVERY line in EVERY file? There are hundreds of them.

There are many ways, but most of them come down to transferring the
files rather than copying them. For example, someone suggested Dropbox.
That would work. There are also quick one-liners you can execute in your
shell to modify all the files very quickly.

Google for something like "shell window linux line endings"

Your linux might even have a dos2linux command (or it might be called
dtou).

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On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:01:26 -0000 (UTC), Lewis 

>> Second, assuming that the ^M is the problem, how do I fix it, short of
>> editing EVERY line in EVERY file? There are hundreds of them.
>
>There are many ways, but most of them come down to transferring the
>files rather than copying them. For example, someone suggested Dropbox.
>That would work. There are also quick one-liners you can execute in your
>shell to modify all the files very quickly.
>
>Google for something like "shell window linux line endings"
>
>Your linux might even have a dos2linux command (or it might be called
>dtou).

Yes, I installed dos2linux and ran it on the AddOn folder. It did its job,
but I still have no addons. 

Tom

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On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:47:31 +0100, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum> wrote:

>WoW is coded for windows.  Not for wine running in a *nix environment. 
>there are some tweaks here and there.  But dont expect any raid capable fps.

Can you point me to some of these tweaks?

Tom

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Den 01-11-2015 kl. 03:03 skrev Tom Hall:
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:47:31 +0100, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum> wrote:
>
>> WoW is coded for windows.  Not for wine running in a *nix environment.
>> there are some tweaks here and there.  But dont expect any raid capable fps.
>
> Can you point me to some of these tweaks?

Google -> "world of warcraft linux tweaks" and "world of warcraft wine fps"

The first match is an old post at ubuntuforums.org from 2006.  Keep in 
mind that Wine or another similar windows emulator running in a linux 
environment is some sort of a virtualized windows.

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