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On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 03:22:01 +0100, Catriona R wrote:
>  Hopefully you're reading

Yeah, I'm still lurking here :-)

>  I might manage to muddle through a group quest so long as I don't
>  have to talk; I can at least understand most of the LFM type messages
>  in world chat. 
> 
>  Problem is, how to get into a group in the first place! What's the
>  German equivalent of "inv pls"?

"inv pls" or "inv bitte" would probably work :-) Many of the common english
abbreviations used in WoW (and other online multiplayer games I suspect) are
also used or at least understood by German speaking players.

>  Google suggests "laden Sie bitte" but I've no idea if that's even correct
>  grammar for what I mean, nor if the correct form is what people actually
>  use

It's closer to the second than the first :-) but would definitelay be
undestood.  The main thing people would find strange about it is the "Sie"
because that is the form used for people you are on a last name basis (the
polite form) that english is totally lacking. In the context of wow, where
everyone is on a first name/character name basis people always use "Du".

"invite me please" would be "lad(e) mich bitte ein" but back when I played
it would often have been shortened to "laden bitte" (roughly "inv pls") or
even just "laden" ("inv").

While in the early days there would have been quite a bit of friendly small
talk while grouping for quests together, during my stint back in Panda
(turtle farming anyone?) and for the free WoD week, I found that people in
the same area often just ninja invited others in the same region that were
obviously farming the same mobs or on the same quest and never spoke a word.
So you should be fine as a silent player, or if anyone starts chatting and
you don't understand what they are saying (or understand but are not sure
how to respond in German a brief "sorry, I only speak English" is unlikely
to get you kicked from the group :-)

What server did you end up being on?

Cheers
Urbin
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Urbin  (100), Hunter  | Sunh     (81), Priest      | Vargal     (42), Warrior
Greeta  (90), Rogue   | Surana   (75), Mage        | Gera       (26), Paladin
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On 30 Jul 2015 06:34:34 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 03:22:01 +0100, Catriona R wrote:
>>  Hopefully you're reading
>
>Yeah, I'm still lurking here :-)

Good to see you're around :-)

>>  I might manage to muddle through a group quest so long as I don't
>>  have to talk; I can at least understand most of the LFM type messages
>>  in world chat. 
>> 
>>  Problem is, how to get into a group in the first place! What's the
>>  German equivalent of "inv pls"?
>
>"inv pls" or "inv bitte" would probably work :-) Many of the common english
>abbreviations used in WoW (and other online multiplayer games I suspect) are
>also used or at least understood by German speaking players.

Ah good; I'd noticed a lot of "LFM" and the like, which I assume means
nothing at all in German, but wasn't sure if "inv" would be
understood, so it seemed a good plan to ask first ;-)

>>  Google suggests "laden Sie bitte" but I've no idea if that's even correct
>>  grammar for what I mean, nor if the correct form is what people actually
>>  use
>
>It's closer to the second than the first :-) but would definitelay be
>undestood.  The main thing people would find strange about it is the "Sie"
>because that is the form used for people you are on a last name basis (the
>polite form) that english is totally lacking. In the context of wow, where
>everyone is on a first name/character name basis people always use "Du".

Yep, I remembered about the formal stuff from my old schooldays
(everything we learned then was in the formal version, so I'll have
the fun of trying to convert to "Du" if I actually do try and say
anything... :-))

>"invite me please" would be "lad(e) mich bitte ein" but back when I played
>it would often have been shortened to "laden bitte" (roughly "inv pls") or
>even just "laden" ("inv").

Ah cool, I'd wondered if it could be shortened that way but again,
didn't want to end up completely incomprehensible, so thought best to
ask! I'll go with "laden bitte" then, I think; I always prefer to add
"please" when asking for invites in English as politeness never hurts
:-)

>While in the early days there would have been quite a bit of friendly small
>talk while grouping for quests together, during my stint back in Panda
>(turtle farming anyone?) and for the free WoD week, I found that people in
>the same area often just ninja invited others in the same region that were
>obviously farming the same mobs or on the same quest and never spoke a word.
>So you should be fine as a silent player, or if anyone starts chatting and
>you don't understand what they are saying (or understand but are not sure
>how to respond in German a brief "sorry, I only speak English" is unlikely
>to get you kicked from the group :-)

Yes, I'm hoping "ich spreche nicht gut Deutsch" will work well enough
:-) I'm thinking this realm may be more chatty than live, but I guess
I'll find out; certainly people are much more friendly in the world
chat as I read it (well, the bits I can understand!)

>What server did you end up being on?

http://www.classic-wow.org/ - pretty fun for remembering the old days,
a few minor bugs but nothing gamebreaking so far, phew. Although I
wish all the readable notes you get given in quests were translated to
English like the rest of the client; it's hard going trying to
translate anything more than about a sentence long, so I just gave up
reading those hehe.

Thanks for the help, appreciated! Or should I say: Danke schoen!
(Won't make a fool of myself by trying to expand that any further ;-))

On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:36:17 +0100, Catriona R wrote:
>  On 30 Jul 2015 06:34:34 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 03:22:01 +0100, Catriona R wrote:
> 
> >What server did you end up being on?
> 
>  http://www.classic-wow.org/ - pretty fun for remembering the old days,
>  a few minor bugs but nothing gamebreaking so far, phew.

Wow, I hadn't realised such servers existed (nor would I have expected that
Blizzard would tolerate them).

Sounds pretty cool :-)

Cheers
Urbin
-- 
Dun Morogh-EU (PvE)   | Taalas   (85), Shaman      | Juran      (65), Druid
Urbin  (100), Hunter  | Sunh     (81), Priest      | Vargal     (42), Warrior
Greeta  (90), Rogue   | Surana   (75), Mage        | Gera       (26), Paladin
Mymule  (85), Warlock | Kordosch (75), Deathknight | Tunyatgong (12), Monk

On 30 Jul 2015 19:45:28 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:36:17 +0100, Catriona R wrote:
>>  On 30 Jul 2015 06:34:34 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 03:22:01 +0100, Catriona R wrote:
>> 
>> >What server did you end up being on?
>> 
>>  http://www.classic-wow.org/ - pretty fun for remembering the old days,
>>  a few minor bugs but nothing gamebreaking so far, phew.
>
>Wow, I hadn't realised such servers existed (nor would I have expected that
>Blizzard would tolerate them).

There's always been private servers I think, I've never been
interested, as I tend to think Blizz won't tolerate the more current
ones that well. But the idea of trying vanilla WoW again grew on me,
and in the end I couldn't resist it, it's such a change in pace from
the current game :-)

>Sounds pretty cool :-)

Enjoying it so far, a few inconsistencies, but overall it's mostly how
I remember. Totally different to the game now, it's way slower and way
harder to level, much more fun than just whizzing past everything  in
a race to get to endgame boredom as fast as possible. I've always
loved the journey, so this is fun, also nice to see the zones as they
were before the Cataclysm reshaped tham. 

Gotta say I'm surprised how few quests some zones have; because it's
so much faster now I'd thought that there must have been as many if
not more quests then than there are now, but some zones are very
sparse indeed, I have to keep checking external websites to make sure
I've not missed a chain. Also hadn't realised how many of the UI
things I consider standard now weren't actually in the game back then,
things like: autoloot, questgivers appearing on the minimap, being
able to see the health of mobs as a number not just a %, seeing enemy
cast bars... a lot has changed in 10 years, some of it definitely for
the better :-)

On 31/07/2015 5:15 AM, Urbin wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:36:17 +0100, Catriona R wrote:
>>   On 30 Jul 2015 06:34:34 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 03:22:01 +0100, Catriona R wrote:
>>
>>> What server did you end up being on?
>>
>>   http://www.classic-wow.org/ - pretty fun for remembering the old days,
>>   a few minor bugs but nothing gamebreaking so far, phew.
>
> Wow, I hadn't realised such servers existed (nor would I have expected that
> Blizzard would tolerate them).
>
> Sounds pretty cool :-)
>

You can run a private server on your own machine and log in with 
multiple accounts to test multibox and other things. Worked fine on a 
dual core 3Ghz 6 years ago, with lower res for 4 or more accounts + 
server running of course . It is a bit lonely just you with every item 
available for the clicking and a 'kill everything in 50 yards' button 
:-)  Why am I looting kills, why??

I was a bit paranoid and ran all servers in a totally separate wow from 
the paid version.


everas g

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 03:46:14 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <slrnmrkvmo...@stinky-local.trash.net> 
>  Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:36:17 +0100, Catriona R wrote:
>>>  On 30 Jul 2015 06:34:34 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> >On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 03:22:01 +0100, Catriona R wrote:
>>> 
>>> >What server did you end up being on?
>>> 
>>>  http://www.classic-wow.org/ - pretty fun for remembering the old days,
>>>  a few minor bugs but nothing gamebreaking so far, phew.
>
>> Wow, I hadn't realised such servers existed (nor would I have expected that
>> Blizzard would tolerate them).
>
>They seem to shut down the ones in the US.

Probably easier for them to do that than to get the European ones
under different laws and the like; I'd imagine it's too much trouble
to be worth it when it comes to a server in another country, running a
10-year-old version of the game, not like it's much threat to the live
servers (anyone who'd play vanilla and unsub from live probably wasn't
happy in live anyway and would've only gone to another game
instead...)

>I played around on a Lich King serve for awhile, but a it turns out
>having a thousand other players on a server *is* useful.
>
>It only lasted about 6 months.

Yeah, most seem completely dead, and I remembered how many group
quests there are in vanilla... this one's quiet, but has about 800
players online at peak times (across both factions), so not totally
dead, at least - I figured people who speak a language I don't know
well is better than no people at all! 

And quiet is far better for me than the pvp realm which recently
launched that has 8k online at the same time - my bf tried that one
(it's what got me interested in the idea of a vanilla realm) and it
was quite simply impossible to do any quests, due to way too many
people and way too few mobs - the faster spawnrates in busy areas was
only added in a later expansion (can't remember which, maybe Cata?).