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Cryptoengineer <pete...@gmail.com> wrote in 
news:XnsA41D9A7...@216.166.97.131:

> I've finally got my Barn up to level 3, and am now trying to farm Savage
> Blood (for upgrades and AH gold). This involves trapping any of 3 Nagrand
> lvl 100 elites, which is not trivial.
> 
> I've made the best progress with Mighty Clefthoofs.
> 
> My lock not only has a void tank, he's got Defender Ilsona
> by his side - a largely uncontrolled pet. She's at 654 weapon,
> 658 armor, considerably higher than the lock.
> 
> When the three of us attack a MC, I wind up with the voidlord
> and Illona at opposite ends, and the clefthoof flips directions
> every few seconds, as attack-from-behind generates more aggro
> than attack-from-the-front.
> 
> Amusing to watch, but it makes it harder to trap them - where do
> you lay the trap? - and makes the 2-for-1 exploit unusable. I find
> I have to set the tank to 'passive' at the end.
> 
> pt
> 

Ouch. That's "Ironhide Bulls", not clefthoof

Den 09-01-2015 kl. 21:11 skrev Cryptoengineer:

> Amusing to watch, but it makes it harder to trap them - where do
> you lay the trap? - and makes the 2-for-1 exploit unusable. I find
> I have to set the tank to 'passive' at the end.

1. When you attack the bull stay at the same spot while you face it 
directly all the time.  Just let your void get thew aggro.

2. When the bull is below 50% you put down your trap and walk like 10 
steps backwards or so.  Be sure your trap is on the line between you and 
the bull.

3. Once you have done that so your void to passive so your void runs 
through your trap.  The bull follows your void through the trap.  Profit.

If you want 2 cages from a single bull lay down your first trap around 
50-55% health.  _Dont_ move your lock!  Wait ~15 secs and lay down your 
second trap when off cooldown.
At this point you may have to correct the line between you and the bull 
so the trap is in the line between you and the bull.  Walk 10 steps 
backwards.  Set your void to passive and watch the bull get trapped in 
both traps.  Double profit. :)  this works with any elite mob.

Blizzard prolly fix this exploit soon(tm) so use it while you can.

-- 
Peter T.

<https://www.elitedangerous.com/>

On Fri, 09 Jan 2015 22:11:26 +0100, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum>
wrote:

>Den 09-01-2015 kl. 21:11 skrev Cryptoengineer:
>
>> Amusing to watch, but it makes it harder to trap them - where do
>> you lay the trap? - and makes the 2-for-1 exploit unusable. I find
>> I have to set the tank to 'passive' at the end.
>
>1. When you attack the bull stay at the same spot while you face it 
>directly all the time.  Just let your void get thew aggro.
>
>2. When the bull is below 50% you put down your trap and walk like 10 
>steps backwards or so.  Be sure your trap is on the line between you and 
>the bull.
>
>3. Once you have done that so your void to passive so your void runs 
>through your trap.  The bull follows your void through the trap.  Profit.
>
>If you want 2 cages from a single bull lay down your first trap around 
>50-55% health.  _Dont_ move your lock!  Wait ~15 secs and lay down your 
>second trap when off cooldown.
>At this point you may have to correct the line between you and the bull 
>so the trap is in the line between you and the bull.  Walk 10 steps 
>backwards.  Set your void to passive and watch the bull get trapped in 
>both traps.  Double profit. :)  this works with any elite mob.
>
>Blizzard prolly fix this exploit soon(tm) so use it while you can.

Use it very soon, next lot of rolling restarts will fix it, by how I'm
reading this thread:
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/356350-level-3-barn-trapping-proposal-group-play/

Does sound like overall it'll be better, as grouping would work, and
stealing will not, but yeah, no more doubletrapping, not surprising as
it was never likely to be intended ;-)

Catriona R <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in
news:chb8...@mid.individual.net: 

> 
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2015 22:11:26 +0100, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum>
> wrote:
> 
>>Den 09-01-2015 kl. 21:11 skrev Cryptoengineer:
>>
>>> Amusing to watch, but it makes it harder to trap them - where do
>>> you lay the trap? - and makes the 2-for-1 exploit unusable. I find
>>> I have to set the tank to 'passive' at the end.
>>
>>1. When you attack the bull stay at the same spot while you face it 
>>directly all the time.  Just let your void get thew aggro.
>>
>>2. When the bull is below 50% you put down your trap and walk like 10 
>>steps backwards or so.  Be sure your trap is on the line between you
>>and the bull.
>>
>>3. Once you have done that so your void to passive so your void runs 
>>through your trap.  The bull follows your void through the trap. 
>>Profit. 
>>
>>If you want 2 cages from a single bull lay down your first trap around
>>50-55% health.  _Dont_ move your lock!  Wait ~15 secs and lay down
>>your second trap when off cooldown.
>>At this point you may have to correct the line between you and the
>>bull so the trap is in the line between you and the bull.  Walk 10
>>steps backwards.  Set your void to passive and watch the bull get
>>trapped in both traps.  Double profit. :)  this works with any elite
>>mob. 
>>
>>Blizzard prolly fix this exploit soon(tm) so use it while you can.
> 
> Use it very soon, next lot of rolling restarts will fix it, by how I'm
> reading this thread:
> http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/356350-level-3-barn-trapping-proposa
> l-group-play/ 
> 
> Does sound like overall it'll be better, as grouping would work, and
> stealing will not, but yeah, no more doubletrapping, not surprising as
> it was never likely to be intended ;-)
> 

Not surprising. Now that I've got the process down, farming the
clefthoof doesn't take that long. I only farm up to 7 a day.

pt

Den 10-01-2015 kl. 05:01 skrev Cryptoengineer:

> Not surprising. Now that I've got the process down, farming the
> clefthoof doesn't take that long. I only farm up to 7 a day.

Hurry up.  Once you get used to it you'll yawn while you dps until you 
lay your first trap and second trap. :)  With the small strategy I 
mentioned earlier you can farm 15-20 cages per hour unless your realm is 
crowded.

-- 
Peter T.

<https://www.elitedangerous.com/>

"Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum> wrote in news:m8r1p6$a1$1
@speranza.aioe.org:

> Den 10-01-2015 kl. 05:01 skrev Cryptoengineer:
> 
>> Not surprising. Now that I've got the process down, farming the
>> clefthoof doesn't take that long. I only farm up to 7 a day.
> 
> Hurry up.  Once you get used to it you'll yawn while you dps until you 
> lay your first trap and second trap. :)  With the small strategy I 
> mentioned earlier you can farm 15-20 cages per hour unless your realm is 
> crowded.
> 

I'm doing that. I've found that the Swampbeasts are the easiest, and on
my server hardly farmed at all.

The wolves are a pain in the ass.

pt

"Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum> wrote in news:m8r1p6$a1$1
@speranza.aioe.org:

> Den 10-01-2015 kl. 05:01 skrev Cryptoengineer:
> 
>> Not surprising. Now that I've got the process down, farming the
>> clefthoof doesn't take that long. I only farm up to 7 a day.
> 
> Hurry up.  Once you get used to it you'll yawn while you dps until you 
> lay your first trap and second trap. :)  With the small strategy I 
> mentioned earlier you can farm 15-20 cages per hour unless your realm is 
> crowded.
> 

Thanks! I'm actually managing 50-60 cages per hour (seriously). The 
waterbeasts are barely touched on my server, they have no frontal cone
attack, and I don't have to search for them.

pt

Den 12-01-2015 kl. 18:19 skrev Cryptoengineer:

> Thanks! I'm actually managing 50-60 cages per hour (seriously). The
> waterbeasts are barely touched on my server, they have no frontal cone
> attack, and I don't have to search for them.

50-60 cages per hour??  Wow!  60 cages = 10 days.  6 hours = 360 cages = 
2 months.  Not bad. :)

-- 
Peter T.

<https://www.elitedangerous.com/>

"Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum> wrote in news:m95snt$unk$1
@speranza.aioe.org:

> Den 12-01-2015 kl. 18:19 skrev Cryptoengineer:
> 
>> Thanks! I'm actually managing 50-60 cages per hour (seriously). The
>> waterbeasts are barely touched on my server, they have no frontal cone
>> attack, and I don't have to search for them.
> 
> 50-60 cages per hour??  Wow!  60 cages = 10 days.  6 hours = 360 cages = 
> 2 months.  Not bad. :)
> 

Actually, that was an estimate. I later timed it - I got 41 cages in 30
minutes. I did miss the twofer a couple times, and I did get killed once
when a pat showed up at the wrong moment. That would have been 80+ cages
per hour, or one Riverbeast every 90 seconds or so.

I went into the reset with 200 caged beasts, enough for a small stampede.

This is a ilvl 632 lock with a voidlord. My MO was to dps the mob down to 
65-70% with the VL tanking, then stack on the VL facing the mob, and drop 
the first trap. Continue dpsing, the goal being to get to 49% just as 
the trap goes off cooldown. Drop the second trap, put the VL on 
passive, and walk backwards a few paces while hitting an instant
attack, (to get aggro). The mod moves forward and gets trapped.

At this point, the VL is often low on health, so I'd resummon it to get
a full-health one, and reset to Assist (important). You don't have to
wait for the trapping scenario to complete.

Rinse and repeat. An important factor is location, around 37.5, 45 in 
Nagrand. This is a fairly long way from any FP, and is little farmed on
my med-pop server. The leather produced sells well, and the Savage 
Bloods are very welcome.

pt

Den 14-01-2015 kl. 16:24 skrev Cryptoengineer:

> Actually, that was an estimate. I later timed it - I got 41 cages in 30
> minutes. I did miss the twofer a couple times, and I did get killed once
> when a pat showed up at the wrong moment. That would have been 80+ cages
> per hour, or one Riverbeast every 90 seconds or so.

I only farmed wolves and they were able to kill my VL at 80% health. 
But it didnt happen everytime though.  Destro lock 634 here.

> I went into the reset with 200 caged beasts, enough for a small stampede.
>
> This is a ilvl 632 lock with a voidlord. My MO was to dps the mob down to
> 65-70% with the VL tanking, then stack on the VL facing the mob, and drop
> the first trap. Continue dpsing, the goal being to get to 49% just as
> the trap goes off cooldown. Drop the second trap, put the VL on
> passive, and walk backwards a few paces while hitting an instant
> attack, (to get aggro). The mod moves forward and gets trapped.
>
> At this point, the VL is often low on health, so I'd resummon it to get
> a full-health one, and reset to Assist (important). You don't have to
> wait for the trapping scenario to complete.
>
> Rinse and repeat. An important factor is location, around 37.5, 45 in
> Nagrand. This is a fairly long way from any FP, and is little farmed on
> my med-pop server. The leather produced sells well, and the Savage
> Bloods are very welcome.

Nice.  Very nice description. :)

-- 
Peter T.

<https://www.elitedangerous.com/>