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On 13/03/2014 7:44 PM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <lfrl5f$e9t$1...@speranza.aioe.org>
>    Peter T. <pinoc10@hotmail.cum> wrote:
>> Interesting.  There is no official release date on WoD.  But the presale
>> of the next expansion has started.  And the bonus is a lvl 90 char.
>> This will fill my last empty slot with a warrior on my preferred realm.
>> I was sure WoD wouldnt be released before august.  At best.  More likely
>> in october or maybe even november due to the 10th years anniversary.
>> Whats your best guess?
>
> The Boost from 60 to 90 is MUCH better than the boost from 1-59 to 90.
>
> I'm going to level my monk (52 ish) to 60 and then pop that boost to
> give me the achievement for 5 90's.

Meaning you get profession boosts as well
http://www.wowhead.com/news=230250/warlords-of-draenor-digital-preorder-and-character-boosts-now-available

"Level 1 characters do not receive a "Veteran" bonus--but level 60+ 
characters receive a profession boost to their existing professions. If 
you want specific professions leveled, ensure you've learned them 
in-game before starting the boost process."

So, I could have stopped 2 days ago and spent $50 to level the professions.

Nggg nggg, so many options.

  but probably option #1 is:  do nothing,stop until wod 
release,seriously I have holes worn in the new keyboard and everything 
is pretty much at end-of-game now.*
  If they have paid upgrades then paid professions will be in there 
somewhere sooner or later.

*for me, endgame is end-of-game, I can grind like a monkey for weeks on 
my own schedule but this daily schedule stuff is...

Den 13-03-2014 10:14, Lewis skrev:
> In message <lfrl5f$e9t$1...@speranza.aioe.org>
>    Peter T. <pinoc10@hotmail.cum> wrote:
>> Interesting.  There is no official release date on WoD.  But the presale
>> of the next expansion has started.  And the bonus is a lvl 90 char.
>> This will fill my last empty slot with a warrior on my preferred realm.
>> I was sure WoD wouldnt be released before august.  At best.  More likely
>> in october or maybe even november due to the 10th years anniversary.
>> Whats your best guess?
>
> The Boost from 60 to 90 is MUCH better than the boost from 1-59 to 90.
>
> I'm going to level my monk (52 ish) to 60 and then pop that boost to
> give me the achievement for 5 90's.

Hm.  True.  You have a point there as leveling a char 1-60 is a scratch 
in the back compared to leveling many of the profs through vanilla wow 
due to ridiculous mat farming.

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 08:02:07 +0100, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum>
wrote:

>Interesting.  There is no official release date on WoD.  But the presale 
>of the next expansion has started.  And the bonus is a lvl 90 char. 
>This will fill my last empty slot with a warrior on my preferred realm.
>I was sure WoD wouldnt be released before august.  At best.  More likely 
>in october or maybe even november due to the 10th years anniversary. 
>Whats your best guess?

They said they're aiming at "Fall" with last possible date 20th
december, but they want it a lot earlier... my guess is September or
October now. I'd hoped for earlier than that, given how long ago SoO
came out, but looking unlikely now. At least if it's October that's my
birthday present from my (WoW-playing) partner decided easily;
collectors edition will do me nicely ;-)

"Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum> wrote in message 
news:lfrl5f$e9t$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Interesting.  There is no official release date on WoD.  But the presale 
> of the next expansion has started.  And the bonus is a lvl 90 char. This 
> will fill my last empty slot with a warrior on my preferred realm.
> I was sure WoD wouldnt be released before august.  At best.  More likely 
> in october or maybe even november due to the 10th years anniversary. Whats 
> your best guess?
>
> -- 
> Peter T.
>
> <https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

I was wondering, is the lvl90 boost u can get now from pre-ordering instead 
of the lvl90 boost you would get anyway when WoD is released?  or does 
pre-ordering effectively allow you to get 2 lvl90 boosts, one now and one on 
release.

On 14/03/2014 2:40 AM, XQ wrote:
> "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum> wrote in message
> news:lfrl5f$e9t$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Interesting.  There is no official release date on WoD.  But the presale
>> of the next expansion has started.  And the bonus is a lvl 90 char. This
>> will fill my last empty slot with a warrior on my preferred realm.
>> I was sure WoD wouldnt be released before august.  At best.  More likely
>> in october or maybe even november due to the 10th years anniversary. Whats
>> your best guess?
>>
>> --
>> Peter T.
>>
>> <https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>
>
> I was wondering, is the lvl90 boost u can get now from pre-ordering instead
> of the lvl90 boost you would get anyway when WoD is released?  or does
> pre-ordering effectively allow you to get 2 lvl90 boosts, one now and one on
> release.

https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/world-of-warcraft-service-character-boost

Which is in the 'shop' menu now.

To me it reads like you get the one boost with wod, by preorder you get 
that now.

You can $buy any other boosts and professions you care to arrange, but 
since you can get one with pre-order why the hell not get it as well?.
   The boost is free or wod is free-ish, depends how you look at it.

"Characters level 60 and higher will also receive a skill level boost to 
their primary professions." Note 'profession>s<'. Oh yeah, I select to 
instant skillup on mining. I think not.

On the other hand, depends how much of a rush you are in.
A lvl 1, select professions->90 $boost, then another '$boost' 90-90 to 
get the professions to pandamax, you could do that now.
I wonder if that would break anything? Give Blizz $, no, nothing wrong 
here. :-)

  From my own keyhole view, and therefore a good chance not majority.
  Lower level items are in for a market shakeup the result depends what 
people decide to do and how much they want to pay. The economy will 
likely transform from deep and somewhat long term to narrow and ephemeral.
It will probably be more barter for top level items and time rather than 
trickle-down and work-up AH.

The more that love the endgame so much they are prepared to $pay not to 
play anything but endgame the less attractive it is to anybody else.

  If endgame is the great majority, thats Democracy, or maybe 
$Plutocracy, or $Capitalism, or the usual random outcome mix.

On 13/03/2014 8:32 PM, | || ||| ||||| || | wrote:
> On 13/03/2014 7:44 PM, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <lfrl5f$e9t$1...@speranza.aioe.org>
>>    Peter T. <pinoc10@hotmail.cum> wrote:
>>> Interesting.  There is no official release date on WoD.  But the presale
>>> of the next expansion has started.  And the bonus is a lvl 90 char.
>>> This will fill my last empty slot with a warrior on my preferred realm.
>>> I was sure WoD wouldnt be released before august.  At best.  More likely
>>> in october or maybe even november due to the 10th years anniversary.
>>> Whats your best guess?
>>
>> The Boost from 60 to 90 is MUCH better than the boost from 1-59 to 90.
>>
>> I'm going to level my monk (52 ish) to 60 and then pop that boost to
>> give me the achievement for 5 90's.
>
> Meaning you get profession boosts as well
> http://www.wowhead.com/news=230250/warlords-of-draenor-digital-preorder-and-character-boosts-now-available
>
>
> "Level 1 characters do not receive a "Veteran" bonus--but level 60+
> characters receive a profession boost to their existing professions. If
> you want specific professions leveled, ensure you've learned them
> in-game before starting the boost process."
>
> So, I could have stopped 2 days ago and spent $50 to level the professions.
>
> Nggg nggg, so many options.
>
>   but probably option #1 is:  do nothing,stop until wod
> release,seriously I have holes worn in the new keyboard and everything
> is pretty much at end-of-game now.*
>   If they have paid upgrades then paid professions will be in there
> somewhere sooner or later.

Of course you have paid professionw upgrade now, they come with the boost.

I meant this in the context of 'I am top level and want to get X because 
it has more endgame play benefit'.  Pay $ and you can switch from 
engineer to alchemy.

Den 14-03-2014 03:16, | || ||| ||||| || | skrev:

> On the other hand, depends how much of a rush you are in.
> A lvl 1, select professions->90 $boost, then another '$boost' 90-90 to
> get the professions to pandamax, you could do that now.

I level leatherworking (and enchanting) on a lvl 67 rogue atm.  My 90 
monk is maxed in skinning and LW so he is farming skins in Karazhan atm. 
  Or he was.  I have decided to stop that now as when my rogue hits 350 
or 375 in LW its gonna be hard again.  Its the same with my lvl 65 pally 
who has BS and engineering.  Mat farming for those profs are true walks 
in the desert.  So in a few mins I buy the expansion and boost my rogue 
to max.  And maybe I also boost my pally.
The next char will be a priest.  But thats gonna be a walk in the park 
as I have planned inscription and tailoring on this.  Clothes drops 
everywhere no matter where you go and I already have a scriber so I 
jusdt farm a few flowers, mill them and convert them to lowlevel inks in 
SW.  Im not gonna pay anything for this char.  Just ordinary leveling.
Atm I have 3 maxed enchanters.  Clothie, mail and platewearer.  My rogue 
will be the next one.  And so far it pays well as I convert all the 
timeless gear for DE -> weapon enchants -> AH -> profit (1200-1500g for 
a single weapon enchant).  Atm I have +200 timeless leather items 
waiting for DE...  And leveling enchanting 100-525 (especially the Cata 
part) is ridicuolous!

> I wonder if that would break anything? Give Blizz $, no, nothing wrong
> here. :-)

I dont feel its wrong as I'm an experienced player already.  But new 
players seriously needs to level a char from scratch.  Otherwise they 
will miss a _LOT_ of the in-game mechanics you will get knowledge of 
through a first-time leveling.  Just like the lvl80 requirement when you 
wanted to level a brandnew DK back in the LK days.

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Den 14-03-2014 10:30, Peter T. skrev:
> So in a few mins I buy the expansion and boost my rogue
> to max.  And maybe I also boost my pally.

*ding*
*ding*
*ding*
*ding*
*ding*
*ding*
...
*DING!*

FANTASTIC! :D

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Den 14-03-2014 10:38, Peter T. skrev:
> Den 14-03-2014 10:30, Peter T. skrev:
>> So in a few mins I buy the expansion and boost my rogue
>> to max.  And maybe I also boost my pally.
>
> *ding*
> *ding*
> *ding*
> *ding*
> *ding*
> *ding*
> ...
> *DING!*
>
> FANTASTIC! :D

A few notes...  Im writing as I find new details about the effects from 
the boost.

- Leatherworking and enchanting was boosted to 600.  WOOHOO!  But before 
the boost my profs were exactly 300 in LW and 300 in enchanting.  So I 
have to go to the prof trainers and learn all the new recipes and 
patterns.  that means I dont know the faction-based recipes and 
patterns!  That means (again) I have to farm golden lotus rep etc. for 
the faction recipes and patterns.  Thats good.  Because the boosts will 
not make a negative impact to the prices on AH.

- Cold weather flying was added as well.  But I had to pay the 4.5/5k 
for master riding (max speed) depending on guild perk.

- No additional or new factions added in the rep window.

- All my heirlooms were replaced by ilvl 450 greenies and the heirlooms 
were found in my mailbox.  Thats good.  Im gonna replace them with 496 
timeless gear very soon.

- I just spent ~1.8k gold on buying all the new recipes and patterns at 
the trainers in SW.  So learning the patterns from 300 to 600 in two 
profs can and probably will be a bit expensive.  You can skip all the 
lowlevel recipes and patterns and only pay for the panda recipes.  But 
the prof trainer window will be cluttered with lowlevel recipes until 
you decide to spend a goood amount of gold on clearing up the window. :)

- When I logged in after the boost I found my rogue just outside the 
Shrine.  After checking up my profs I went straight to SW and forgot to 
set my HS to the shrine.  Stupid.
But the portal for Pandaria in SW are up so you dont have to do the 
preliminary quests.  Also.  When you return to Paw'don village in 
Pandaria you have to learn the flight point there.  but you already have 
the FPs for Shrine, Dawn's Blossom in jade forest and Tushui's landing 
on timeless isle.  You have to find all other FPs.

- As I start from scratch in Panda world I have to pick up the initial 
quests for the garrison faction in Krasarang, thunder isle etc..  Also 
if I want to use the farm I have to do the initial quests at Halfhill too.

So basically you get a lvl 90 char with maxed-out profs and coldweather 
flying.  Thats it.  Nothing else.  And I really dont complain! =)

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Den 14-03-2014 11:23, Peter T. skrev:

> So basically you get a lvl 90 char with maxed-out profs and coldweather
> flying.  Thats it.  Nothing else.  And I really dont complain! =)
>

Cool.  All my 16 slot nethwerweave bags were replaced by 22 slot 
embersilk bags.  That was a neat surprise. :)

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Den 14-03-2014 11:23, Peter T. skrev:

> - All my heirlooms were replaced by ilvl 450 greenies

Odd.  I checked again.  All my new gear is green 483 and not 450.  But 
the armory says its 450.  I just check my guild leader's boosted priest 
on the armory.  Tooltip says his gear is 450, but overall ilvl is 483 
according to the armory.  Minor bug.

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

Den 14-03-2014 13:43, Lewis skrev:

> Leveling to 60 is pretty simple and fast and you don't have to level the
> professions at all.
>

Indeed.  Level up until you get access to the first instance.  Queue for 
instances between 5pm and 10pm.  At this time you usually dont wait more 
than 1-5 mins even as dps.  Quest or just kill random mobs for the extra 
exp while you are in a queue.
1-60 is very easy and can be done in approx 15-25 hours of playtime 
depending on luck, gear, skills and groups.

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:02:16 +0100, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum>
wrote:

>Den 14-03-2014 11:23, Peter T. skrev:
>
>> - All my heirlooms were replaced by ilvl 450 greenies
>
>Odd.  I checked again.  All my new gear is green 483 and not 450.  But 
>the armory says its 450.  I just check my guild leader's boosted priest 
>on the armory.  Tooltip says his gear is 450, but overall ilvl is 483 
>according to the armory.  Minor bug.

Sounds to me like they initially thought the gear would be 450, then
decided on 483, but armory has the old 450 values - I imagine it'll
catch up soon :-)

Den 14-03-2014 14:37, Catriona R skrev:
>>> - All my heirlooms were replaced by ilvl 450 greenies
>>
>> Odd.  I checked again.  All my new gear is green 483 and not 450.  But
>> the armory says its 450.  I just check my guild leader's boosted priest
>> on the armory.  Tooltip says his gear is 450, but overall ilvl is 483
>> according to the armory.  Minor bug.
>
> Sounds to me like they initially thought the gear would be 450, then
> decided on 483, but armory has the old 450 values - I imagine it'll
> catch up soon :-)
>

Yes.  I also find it odd with green gear at 450  as it normally goes 
blue at that level and goes purple at 476.  But again.  440 epics drops 
from rares.  So why not? :)

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:59:23 +0100, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum>
wrote:

>Den 14-03-2014 14:37, Catriona R skrev:
>>>> - All my heirlooms were replaced by ilvl 450 greenies
>>>
>>> Odd.  I checked again.  All my new gear is green 483 and not 450.  But
>>> the armory says its 450.  I just check my guild leader's boosted priest
>>> on the armory.  Tooltip says his gear is 450, but overall ilvl is 483
>>> according to the armory.  Minor bug.
>>
>> Sounds to me like they initially thought the gear would be 450, then
>> decided on 483, but armory has the old 450 values - I imagine it'll
>> catch up soon :-)
>>
>
>Yes.  I also find it odd with green gear at 450  as it normally goes 
>blue at that level and goes purple at 476.  But again.  440 epics drops 
>from rares.  So why not? :)

I'm guessing 483 greens are going to be around the first levelling
gear you get in WoD (or else the gear vendors sell, like you can get
in Cata/MoP levelling zones), hence green not any other colour - after
all, the boost is mainly a WoD feature, it's just available now via
pre-orders.