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Op 17-3-2013 14:30, Shammy schreef:
> Today I came online to do some instances on my warrior and I noticed in
> guild chat LFM oondasta. I heard about it in the patch notes but I never
> investigated more on the subject. Seems in the last patch they added a
> new island (I missed that) directly north of the shrine of the seven stars.
>
> We had 2 full raid groups of 40 people and it was barely enough to kill
> it. We managed only on our 5th try after we pulled the boss by the sea
> and close to the GY.
> The boss is really hard and most of his abilities 1 shot people. I dont
> think there is a way for someone to survive the whole fight. I died like
> 5 times each try.
> I must say this was the most epic experience I've had in wow in a long
> time :) and I even got a ilvl 522 ring in the end :)
>
> I uploaded 4 screenshots I took during and after the fight, check out
> the field of corpses after it was over :D
>
> http://postimage.org/gallery/vf26ccy/b784944c/
>
> Check out the screenshot with the boss on 0.5%... that was a wipe, at
> that point everyone died so many times that 80 people were dead with a 2
> min ress timer and the boss resetted.
I've done it too with a pug, 3 full groups of 40 and ours of 30. Baldy 
coordinated and we died 2x. The loot was 38 gold or something, but cool 
to have done it. gz with your price.
SF

Den 17-03-2013 17:04, SF skrev:
> Op 17-3-2013 14:30, Shammy schreef:
>> Today I came online to do some instances on my warrior and I noticed in
>> guild chat LFM oondasta. I heard about it in the patch notes but I never
>> investigated more on the subject. Seems in the last patch they added a
>> new island (I missed that) directly north of the shrine of the seven
>> stars.
>>
>> We had 2 full raid groups of 40 people and it was barely enough to kill
>> it. We managed only on our 5th try after we pulled the boss by the sea
>> and close to the GY.
>> The boss is really hard and most of his abilities 1 shot people. I dont
>> think there is a way for someone to survive the whole fight. I died like
>> 5 times each try.
>> I must say this was the most epic experience I've had in wow in a long
>> time :) and I even got a ilvl 522 ring in the end :)
>>
>> I uploaded 4 screenshots I took during and after the fight, check out
>> the field of corpses after it was over :D
>>
>> http://postimage.org/gallery/vf26ccy/b784944c/
>>
>> Check out the screenshot with the boss on 0.5%... that was a wipe, at
>> that point everyone died so many times that 80 people were dead with a 2
>> min ress timer and the boss resetted.
> I've done it too with a pug, 3 full groups of 40 and ours of 30. Baldy
> coordinated and we died 2x. The loot was 38 gold or something, but cool
> to have done it. gz with your price.
> SF
>

3 times so far on my realm.  Everytime we did it with 4 full raids and 
some experienced raid leaders.  Yesterday most raids were of us stayed 
alive to 30%.  Tank healers oom'ed and a tank lost his grip on Oondasta 
so he started walking around and most ppl got caught in his cone, were 
too close to other players etc..  We're improving.  I personally did 6 
corpse run at the last 30% until he died. :)  In a few weeks a single 
medio-experienced raid should down him without too many probs.

-- 
Peter T.

On Mar 17, 1:50 pm, "Peter T." <pino...@hotmail.cum> wrote:
> Den 17-03-2013 17:04, SF skrev:
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> > Op 17-3-2013 14:30, Shammy schreef:
> >> Today I came online to do some instances on my warrior and I noticed in
> >> guild chat LFM oondasta. I heard about it in the patch notes but I never
> >> investigated more on the subject. Seems in the last patch they added a
> >> new island (I missed that) directly north of the shrine of the seven
> >> stars.
>
> >> We had 2 full raid groups of 40 people and it was barely enough to kill
> >> it. We managed only on our 5th try after we pulled the boss by the sea
> >> and close to the GY.
> >> The boss is really hard and most of his abilities 1 shot people. I dont
> >> think there is a way for someone to survive the whole fight. I died like
> >> 5 times each try.
> >> I must say this was the most epic experience I've had in wow in a long
> >> time :) and I even got a ilvl 522 ring in the end :)
>
> >> I uploaded 4 screenshots I took during and after the fight, check out
> >> the field of corpses after it was over :D
>
> >>http://postimage.org/gallery/vf26ccy/b784944c/
>
> >> Check out the screenshot with the boss on 0.5%... that was a wipe, at
> >> that point everyone died so many times that 80 people were dead with a 2
> >> min ress timer and the boss resetted.
> > I've done it too with a pug, 3 full groups of 40 and ours of 30. Baldy
> > coordinated and we died 2x. The loot was 38 gold or something, but cool
> > to have done it. gz with your price.
> > SF
>
> 3 times so far on my realm.  Everytime we did it with 4 full raids and
> some experienced raid leaders.  Yesterday most raids were of us stayed
> alive to 30%.  Tank healers oom'ed and a tank lost his grip on Oondasta
> so he started walking around and most ppl got caught in his cone, were
> too close to other players etc..  We're improving.  I personally did 6
> corpse run at the last 30% until he died. :)  In a few weeks a single
> medio-experienced raid should down him without too many probs.
>
> --
> Peter T.

Congrats to all of you. I was on my first run at this one last night;
two full raids, and we were wiping repeatedly until I had to leave for
RL issues.

pt

Op 17-3-2013 19:42, Cryptoengineer schreef:

>
> Congrats to all of you. I was on my first run at this one last night;
> two full raids, and we were wiping repeatedly until I had to leave for
> RL issues.
>
> pt
>

we could form a crossrealm group if your european
SF

Den 17-03-2013 22:03, SF skrev:
> Op 17-3-2013 19:42, Cryptoengineer schreef:
>
>>
>> Congrats to all of you. I was on my first run at this one last night;
>> two full raids, and we were wiping repeatedly until I had to leave for
>> RL issues.
>>
>> pt
>>
>
> we could form a crossrealm group if your european
> SF

I was in a crossrealm raid the second time and a lot of strange things 
happened before the fight.  Other raids and Oondasta disappeared from 
the screen several times for like 20-30 seconds.
We discussed it in the raid and we came to that conclusion that Oondasta 
spawned on our (my) realm, but there were too many ppl from other realms 
in our raid and _that_ was the problem.  Im not sure what it ended up 
with.  But I guess some from the other realms left so we ended up with a 
majority of ppl from my realm.

But...  Its just a pure guess.

-- 
Peter T.

On 3/17/2013 9:30 AM, Shammy wrote:
> Today I came online to do some instances on my warrior and I noticed in
> guild chat LFM oondasta. I heard about it in the patch notes but I never
> investigated more on the subject. Seems in the last patch they added a
> new island (I missed that) directly north of the shrine of the seven stars.
>
> We had 2 full raid groups of 40 people and it was barely enough to kill
> it. We managed only on our 5th try after we pulled the boss by the sea
> and close to the GY.
> The boss is really hard and most of his abilities 1 shot people. I dont
> think there is a way for someone to survive the whole fight. I died like
> 5 times each try.
> I must say this was the most epic experience I've had in wow in a long
> time :) and I even got a ilvl 522 ring in the end :)
>
> I uploaded 4 screenshots I took during and after the fight, check out
> the field of corpses after it was over :D
>
> http://postimage.org/gallery/vf26ccy/b784944c/
>
> Check out the screenshot with the boss on 0.5%... that was a wipe, at
> that point everyone died so many times that 80 people were dead with a 2
> min ress timer and the boss resetted.

Cool - Thanks for the info & Gratz...

Haven't tried him yet, but some in the guild have and they all said he 
was tough, but fun.  The guild put together a run for next Saturday 
night to try and see if we can get enough members running it for a guild 
achieve.

I did manage to get exalted with both the BP and Kirin Tor on my main, 
and bought my Triceratops mount.  I also managed to get my main alt 
heals close as well, and get her through healing the first raid.  Was 
light years better than the first night it was open and I ran it my main...

I ended up burned out a bit and since both toons were maxed, and I 
didn't feel like leveling my alt last night,  I felt I needed a change 
of pace and logged a bit early, and played one of my daughter's games. 
I found a empty save slot on her Skylanders game and started playing 
about 45 minutes worth...nice simple fun and actually had a blast.  Also 
started getting into watching "The Walking Dead" series over the 
weekend, which I hadn't seen any of....Really, really cool show, but 
wife won't watch it with me.... Already into season 2....lol

> Haven't tried him yet, but some in the guild have and they all said he
> was tough, but fun.  The guild put together a run for next Saturday night 
> to try and see if we can get enough members running it for a guild 
> achieve.

Unless your guild can get together 80 people with good gear and even better 
tanks (we had tanks from the best guild on the server with around 600k hp) 
then forget it.
Galleon has over 800 mil. hp


> started getting into watching "The Walking Dead" series over the weekend, 
> which I hadn't seen any of....Really, really cool show, but wife won't 
> watch it with me.... Already into season 2....lol

Did she try watching it? My wife hates zombies and zombie movies but after 
she watched the first 2 episodes of the walking dead she watched the whole 
thing and cant wait for the next episode :) 

On 3/18/2013 12:13 PM, Shammy wrote:
>
>> Haven't tried him yet, but some in the guild have and they all said he
>> was tough, but fun.  The guild put together a run for next Saturday
>> night to try and see if we can get enough members running it for a
>> guild achieve.
>
> Unless your guild can get together 80 people with good gear and even
> better tanks (we had tanks from the best guild on the server with around
> 600k hp) then forget it.
> Galleon has over 800 mil. hp

Galleon or Oondasta?  Anyway, while you may be right on the as far as 
the amount of players needed to down him, Bliz may require only a 
certain amount for the achieve.  I don't know what the minimum is, but 
many of their achieves only require a certain amount of players from the 
guild to count.  An example being on a 10 man, that 8 be from the guild, 
on a 5 man I think it's 4.   Forget what the 25 man is...  I honestly 
don't know what Oondasta is, but only that it's on the calandar for next 
Sat....  :)

>
>
>> started getting into watching "The Walking Dead" series over the
>> weekend, which I hadn't seen any of....Really, really cool show, but
>> wife won't watch it with me.... Already into season 2....lol
>
> Did she try watching it? My wife hates zombies and zombie movies but
> after she watched the first 2 episodes of the walking dead she watched
> the whole thing and cant wait for the next episode :)

She stopped and watched a minute intrigued by the drama part, asked what 
it was and before I could start explaining, the part where the walkers 
shuffle into the camp at the quarry camp, attack Carol's husband in the 
tent and eat into Amy as she's coming out of the RV from going 
"bio"...pick axes to heads...zombie heads exploding......last I saw was 
a trail of smoke heading towards the stairs with her book saying 
something about bad dreams and "I'll take your word for it" when 
explaining it was a good series......Not exactly the right place to 
introduce her to the series.  :P

...But then again, I would have lost her in the first minute of episode 
one where Rick has to shoot a little zombie girl in the gas station.... 
Her seat on the couch would not have even gotten warm before she was out 
of there...She doesn't "do" horror....  lol

I managed to get her to watch "The Stand" once, but it wasn't as 
graphic... :)

I only just got to the end of the episode in season 2 where Shane and 
Otis just got trapped by walkers at the High school getting FEMA medical 
supplies for Carl...  :)

"IYM" <nor...@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message 
news:ki7imu$o9m$1@dont-email.me...
> On 3/18/2013 12:13 PM, Shammy wrote:
>>
>>> Haven't tried him yet, but some in the guild have and they all said he
>>> was tough, but fun.  The guild put together a run for next Saturday
>>> night to try and see if we can get enough members running it for a
>>> guild achieve.
>>
>> Unless your guild can get together 80 people with good gear and even
>> better tanks (we had tanks from the best guild on the server with around
>> 600k hp) then forget it.
>> Galleon has over 800 mil. hp
>
> Galleon or Oondasta?

Oondasta sorry I just killed galleon like 5 min before writing that :)

>Anyway, while you may be right on the as far as the amount of players 
>needed to down him, Bliz may require only a certain amount for the achieve. 
>I don't know what the minimum is, but many of their achieves only require a 
>certain amount of players from the guild to count.  An example being on a 
>10 man, that 8 be from the guild, on a 5 man I think it's 4.   Forget what 
>the 25 man is...  I honestly don't know what Oondasta is, but only that 
>it's on the calandar for next Sat....  :)

Oondasta is the most epic thing in wow atm :)

>
>>
>>
>>> started getting into watching "The Walking Dead" series over the
>>> weekend, which I hadn't seen any of....Really, really cool show, but
>>> wife won't watch it with me.... Already into season 2....lol
>>
>> Did she try watching it? My wife hates zombies and zombie movies but
>> after she watched the first 2 episodes of the walking dead she watched
>> the whole thing and cant wait for the next episode :)
>
> She stopped and watched a minute intrigued by the drama part, asked what 
> it was and before I could start explaining, the part where the walkers 
> shuffle into the camp at the quarry camp, attack Carol's husband in the 
> tent and eat into Amy as she's coming out of the RV from going 
> "bio"...pick axes to heads...zombie heads exploding......last I saw was a 
> trail of smoke heading towards the stairs with her book saying something 
> about bad dreams and "I'll take your word for it" when explaining it was a 
> good series......Not exactly the right place to introduce her to the 
> series.  :P
>
> ...But then again, I would have lost her in the first minute of episode 
> one where Rick has to shoot a little zombie girl in the gas station.... 
> Her seat on the couch would not have even gotten warm before she was out 
> of there...She doesn't "do" horror....  lol
>
> I managed to get her to watch "The Stand" once, but it wasn't as 
> graphic... :)
>
> I only just got to the end of the episode in season 2 where Shane and Otis 
> just got trapped by walkers at the High school getting FEMA medical 
> supplies for Carl...  :)
>

That's your problem she should have watched from the very start of episode 1 
(well just after he shot the little girl), by the time you see the first 
walkers you are sucked in the story :). My wife was all is rick going to 
find his wife and son, is he going to survive, is his wife going to survive 
etc :) 

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:30:47 +0100, "Shammy" <no...@nothing.com>
wrote:

>Today I came online to do some instances on my warrior and I noticed in 
>guild chat LFM oondasta. I heard about it in the patch notes but I never 
>investigated more on the subject. Seems in the last patch they added a new 
>island (I missed that) directly north of the shrine of the seven stars.
>
>We had 2 full raid groups of 40 people and it was barely enough to kill it. 
>We managed only on our 5th try after we pulled the boss by the sea and close 
>to the GY.
>The boss is really hard and most of his abilities 1 shot people. I dont 
>think there is a way for someone to survive the whole fight. I died like 5 
>times each try.
>I must say this was the most epic experience I've had in wow in a long time 
>:) and I even got a ilvl 522 ring in the end :)
>
>I uploaded 4 screenshots I took during and after the fight, check out the 
>field of corpses after it was over :D
>
>http://postimage.org/gallery/vf26ccy/b784944c/
>
>Check out the screenshot with the boss on 0.5%... that was a wipe, at that 
>point everyone died so many times that 80 people were dead with a 2 min ress 
>timer and the boss resetted. 

Just killed him for the first time (they upped the spawnrate this
week) and omfg that is insane. I only died 5 times lol, oneshot most
of them, totally unavoidable! I have no idea how a single raid could
actually kill him tbh, we only did it because with what looked like at
least 100 people, there was always enough alive (and not waiting out
the 2 mins res timer) to keep him in combat... rather wise people on
general told everyone never mind rotations just get your dots up as
soon as you res, seems the only way as nobody stayed alive more than
10 sec :-P Absolutely crazy stuff but a good laugh, and he kindly gave
me a 522 belt which eased the pain of the 75g repair bill ;-)

On 3/18/2013 12:13 PM, Shammy wrote:
>
>> Haven't tried him yet, but some in the guild have and they all said he
>> was tough, but fun.  The guild put together a run for next Saturday
>> night to try and see if we can get enough members running it for a
>> guild achieve.
>
> Unless your guild can get together 80 people with good gear and even
> better tanks (we had tanks from the best guild on the server with around
> 600k hp) then forget it.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Ooondasta_Guild_Run

"Ooondasta Guild Run is an achievement that is awarded for defeating 
Oondasta on the Isle of Giants in a raid with at least 8 guild members."


So the good news it doesn't seem difficult for the guild achieve 
scheduled for this weekend, besides the obvious actual defeat of the 
boss....8 will do it. :)

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:02:00 +0000, Catriona R
<catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

>Just killed him for the first time (they upped the spawnrate this
>week) and omfg that is insane. I only died 5 times lol, oneshot most
>of them, totally unavoidable! I have no idea how a single raid could
>actually kill him tbh, we only did it because with what looked like at
>least 100 people, there was always enough alive (and not waiting out
>the 2 mins res timer) to keep him in combat... rather wise people on
>general told everyone never mind rotations just get your dots up as
>soon as you res, seems the only way as nobody stayed alive more than
>10 sec :-P Absolutely crazy stuff but a good laugh, and he kindly gave
>me a 522 belt which eased the pain of the 75g repair bill ;-)

And killed for the second time just now (on druid), erm... I think my
priest got lucky? Many many wipes, me and my bf between us spent
around 630g on guildbank repairs, can't really say the 29g prize was
worth it lol. Was a heck of a laugh though, but at that price we won't
be doing it every week :-P

On 3/21/2013 6:19 PM, Catriona R wrote:
>
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:02:00 +0000, Catriona R
> <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Just killed him for the first time (they upped the spawnrate this
>> week) and omfg that is insane. I only died 5 times lol, oneshot most
>> of them, totally unavoidable! I have no idea how a single raid could
>> actually kill him tbh, we only did it because with what looked like at
>> least 100 people, there was always enough alive (and not waiting out
>> the 2 mins res timer) to keep him in combat... rather wise people on
>> general told everyone never mind rotations just get your dots up as
>> soon as you res, seems the only way as nobody stayed alive more than
>> 10 sec :-P Absolutely crazy stuff but a good laugh, and he kindly gave
>> me a 522 belt which eased the pain of the 75g repair bill ;-)
>
> And killed for the second time just now (on druid), erm... I think my
> priest got lucky? Many many wipes, me and my bf between us spent
> around 630g on guildbank repairs, can't really say the 29g prize was
> worth it lol. Was a heck of a laugh though, but at that price we won't
> be doing it every week :-P
>

Just did it for the first time last night....and I don't know what 
happened based on what I was expecting, but I was disappointed for all 
the hype.  Waited around for 40 minutes until all groups were ready. 
Were told to wait down on the beach, then one tank and a few healers 
went up, pulled him down the cliff to the water and kept him facing the 
ocean, near the graveyard while everyone stayed behind him and nuked 
him.  I timed the entire fight at 2 min 11 sec... I didn't die, and 
hardly took damage and just stood in one spot.  The melee seemed to die 
a bit and the one one or two tanks went down.  There seemed to be a lot 
of people, and it was mentioned that there were 3 groups.  There could 
have been a partial 4th...dunno.  So I guess that would have made it 
80ish players.   I got dinosaur crap that had gold and a bonus role of 
gold.... I also noticed something weird.  While we were waiting, I 
clicked on him and saw his health somewhere around 842M....As he was 
coming down the cliff before we started hitting him, he showed full 
health, but was about 420M.  Anyone know what that was about?  His 
health cut in half when he got pulled.

I will say, I did have a bunch of fun in the 40 minutes of waiting 
though.  A small group of us went off and were killing dinosaurs.  Got 
about 100 bones...Someone also arranged a fishing derby on the beach and 
it was funny seeing about 40 lines in the water.  :)

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:23:36 -0400, IYM <nor...@whitehouse.gov>
wrote:

>On 3/21/2013 6:19 PM, Catriona R wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:02:00 +0000, Catriona R
>> <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Just killed him for the first time (they upped the spawnrate this
>>> week) and omfg that is insane. I only died 5 times lol, oneshot most
>>> of them, totally unavoidable! I have no idea how a single raid could
>>> actually kill him tbh, we only did it because with what looked like at
>>> least 100 people, there was always enough alive (and not waiting out
>>> the 2 mins res timer) to keep him in combat... rather wise people on
>>> general told everyone never mind rotations just get your dots up as
>>> soon as you res, seems the only way as nobody stayed alive more than
>>> 10 sec :-P Absolutely crazy stuff but a good laugh, and he kindly gave
>>> me a 522 belt which eased the pain of the 75g repair bill ;-)
>>
>> And killed for the second time just now (on druid), erm... I think my
>> priest got lucky? Many many wipes, me and my bf between us spent
>> around 630g on guildbank repairs, can't really say the 29g prize was
>> worth it lol. Was a heck of a laugh though, but at that price we won't
>> be doing it every week :-P
>>
>
>Just did it for the first time last night....and I don't know what 
>happened based on what I was expecting, but I was disappointed for all 
>the hype.  Waited around for 40 minutes until all groups were ready. 
>Were told to wait down on the beach, then one tank and a few healers 
>went up, pulled him down the cliff to the water and kept him facing the 
>ocean, near the graveyard while everyone stayed behind him and nuked 
>him.  I timed the entire fight at 2 min 11 sec... I didn't die, and 
>hardly took damage and just stood in one spot.  The melee seemed to die 
>a bit and the one one or two tanks went down.  There seemed to be a lot 
>of people, and it was mentioned that there were 3 groups.  There could 
>have been a partial 4th...dunno.  So I guess that would have made it 
>80ish players.   I got dinosaur crap that had gold and a bonus role of 
>gold....

Wow, you got the perfect run there! That's how it's *supposed* to go
but it never did lol, my priest at least killed him first try
(although I arrived as a wipe was in progress, so I don't know how
many wipes were before it) but with my druid it was just a disaster,
we were never doing enough damage to begin with and once his dmg
stacked up, then waiting out res timers (be alive between 0 and 5 sec,
maybe 15 sec if I popped a cd or three, then wait 2 mins...) wrecked
our dps. 

Melee is not a fun place to be on him, you need to spread out to avoid
his chaining ability which increases dmg with every person it hits,
and even with his big hitbox you just can't spread enough. At one
point I thought I was doing well, only had one person in the range
finder on DBM... it chained off that one person having been round what
must've been about 50 others I think, hit me for 150 million dmg. Yes,
I did count the numbers to be sure, it was 150 million, not 15 :-O

Btw groups go to 40 in the world, not 25, so it would've been over 120
players if there were 3 full groups and a bit more. 

> I also noticed something weird.  While we were waiting, I 
>clicked on him and saw his health somewhere around 842M....As he was 
>coming down the cliff before we started hitting him, he showed full 
>health, but was about 420M.  Anyone know what that was about?  His 
>health cut in half when he got pulled.

Weird one, haven't seen that! Would've been rather handy for us,
generally by the time we got him that low his dmg was up enough that
everything he did oneshot half of us...

>I will say, I did have a bunch of fun in the 40 minutes of waiting 
>though.  A small group of us went off and were killing dinosaurs.  Got 
>about 100 bones...Someone also arranged a fishing derby on the beach and 
>it was funny seeing about 40 lines in the water.  :)

Hehe sounds fun. I need to go dinosaur farming, want a few things
there, only problem is it's really slow going soloing them, so I'd
need to group up to do it I think, and me and grouping don't mix well
:-P

On 3/22/2013 7:44 AM, Catriona R wrote:
>

>
> Btw groups go to 40 in the world, not 25, so it would've been over 120
> players if there were 3 full groups and a bit more.

Oh - duh...of course.  Now tbh, it didn't look like that many people, 
but could be wrong.  Reason it took 40 min was that they were having 
issues getting a 2nd group started, and then during that 40 min people 
had to go and left group, so constant swapping in and out.  I think we 
met up with another group forming and combined.  So maybe it was two 
full groups...I would guess there were about 80-100 based on what I saw. 
  I was cognizant enough to remember just befor he pulled to open up my 
settings and dquickly drag my graphics slide from ultra to low, and it 
was still a tad jumpy.  Could only imagine if I left it on ultra for 
that fight..  :P

Game looks like crap on low....Feels like fighting on a foggy day at the 
beach...  :)

>
>> I also noticed something weird.  While we were waiting, I
>> clicked on him and saw his health somewhere around 842M....As he was
>> coming down the cliff before we started hitting him, he showed full
>> health, but was about 420M.  Anyone know what that was about?  His
>> health cut in half when he got pulled.
>
> Weird one, haven't seen that! Would've been rather handy for us,
> generally by the time we got him that low his dmg was up enough that
> everything he did oneshot half of us...

Maybe a glitch?  Explains why we downed him so fast...

>
>> I will say, I did have a bunch of fun in the 40 minutes of waiting
>> though.  A small group of us went off and were killing dinosaurs.  Got
>> about 100 bones...Someone also arranged a fishing derby on the beach and
>> it was funny seeing about 40 lines in the water.  :)
>
> Hehe sounds fun. I need to go dinosaur farming, want a few things
> there, only problem is it's really slow going soloing them, so I'd
> need to group up to do it I think, and me and grouping don't mix well
> :-P

It was fun - I had just switched to frost spec, which I haven't played 
since leveling to 90 and was very rusty so I wanted to get some practice 
under my belt, so it was practice for me as well.  Have to get more 
rounds under my belt to get comfortable - only due to the "finger 
memory".  I have a frostbolt set up as the same key as AB was, and I try 
to keep things common to both specs to the same keys (Ice Block, frost 
nova, etc).  But I still have to change some other stuff to make sense. 
  I see Ice lance proc, and I instinctively hit a key that would be my 
arcane missiles and accidentally start a long cast for an unproc'd 
frostfire bolt....Just gotta work some stuff out and retrain the 
fingers.  It was coming back to me....lol

I guess I should have held back my "dissapointed" comment until I ran it 
a few times and maybe see what it's like when I heal it.  I may find 
that I really stepped in crap (in the good way, of course) in getting 
with that group.... :)

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:24:59 -0400, IYM <nor...@whitehouse.gov>
wrote:

>On 3/22/2013 7:44 AM, Catriona R wrote:
>>
>> Btw groups go to 40 in the world, not 25, so it would've been over 120
>> players if there were 3 full groups and a bit more.
>
>Oh - duh...of course.  Now tbh, it didn't look like that many people, 
>but could be wrong.  Reason it took 40 min was that they were having 
>issues getting a 2nd group started, and then during that 40 min people 
>had to go and left group, so constant swapping in and out.  I think we 
>met up with another group forming and combined.  So maybe it was two 
>full groups...I would guess there were about 80-100 based on what I saw. 
>  I was cognizant enough to remember just befor he pulled to open up my 
>settings and dquickly drag my graphics slide from ultra to low, and it 
>was still a tad jumpy.  Could only imagine if I left it on ultra for 
>that fight..  :P
>
>Game looks like crap on low....Feels like fighting on a foggy day at the 
>beach...  :)

Hehe yeah, I'm very surprised my pc handled it nicely, despite the
enormous pile of skeletons and numbers of people. Granted I'm not on
full ultra, but I've got most things on maximum and rest one notch
down, no issues (on a related note, I think Blizz maybe did something
about the post patch problems, I haven't had a massive fps drop for
several days now and far fewer small hiccups). If I want to dualbox
though, my pc really really hates that with both copies on high, so
I've got a second copy of the game set up: different hard drive, no
addons, everything on low. Wow, the difference in quality, I hadn't
realised how big it was till I did that!

>>> I also noticed something weird.  While we were waiting, I
>>> clicked on him and saw his health somewhere around 842M....As he was
>>> coming down the cliff before we started hitting him, he showed full
>>> health, but was about 420M.  Anyone know what that was about?  His
>>> health cut in half when he got pulled.
>>
>> Weird one, haven't seen that! Would've been rather handy for us,
>> generally by the time we got him that low his dmg was up enough that
>> everything he did oneshot half of us...
>
>Maybe a glitch?  Explains why we downed him so fast...

Sure would explain it, sounds like a bug anyway, but a very handy one
indeed!

>I guess I should have held back my "dissapointed" comment until I ran it 
>a few times and maybe see what it's like when I heal it.  I may find 
>that I really stepped in crap (in the good way, of course) in getting 
>with that group.... :)

Hehe based on my experiences you got a very easy run indeed. Healing
is mildly pointless after the first few minutes btw, since everything
he does is a one-shot ability once he has a few stacks of extra dmg,
meaning, you can heal up the newly ressed folk if you want but they'll
only die again next time he roars :-P I regretted switching to Holy
spec for the fight, would've been more use in Disc putting a bit of
dps out in my limited alive time!

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:50:55 +0000, Catriona R
<catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:24:59 -0400, IYM <nor...@whitehouse.gov>
>wrote:
>>>> I also noticed something weird.  While we were waiting, I
>>>> clicked on him and saw his health somewhere around 842M....As he was
>>>> coming down the cliff before we started hitting him, he showed full
>>>> health, but was about 420M.  Anyone know what that was about?  His
>>>> health cut in half when he got pulled.
>>>
>>> Weird one, haven't seen that! Would've been rather handy for us,
>>> generally by the time we got him that low his dmg was up enough that
>>> everything he did oneshot half of us...
>>
>>Maybe a glitch?  Explains why we downed him so fast...
>
>Sure would explain it, sounds like a bug anyway, but a very handy one
>indeed!

Ah, not a bug! http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/257467-oondasta/
Deliberate it seems, just have to pull/maybe reset to get it to show
the new value. That changed after I did it, that's for sure lol... :-P

Op 22-3-2013 16:06, Catriona R schreef:

> Ah, not a bug! http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/257467-oondasta/
> Deliberate it seems, just have to pull/maybe reset to get it to show
> the new value. That changed after I did it, that's for sure lol... :-P
>

you beat me to it I just wanted to post this :)
well i must say my pc really didn't like that many players around haha. 
I turned everything to ultra low and sound off to be able to play along 
the second time I went (and failed, because of bad coordination of groups)
SF

On 3/22/2013 12:25 PM, SF wrote:
> Op 22-3-2013 16:06, Catriona R schreef:
>
>> Ah, not a bug! http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/257467-oondasta/
>> Deliberate it seems, just have to pull/maybe reset to get it to show
>> the new value. That changed after I did it, that's for sure lol... :-P
>>
>
> you beat me to it I just wanted to post this :)
> well i must say my pc really didn't like that many players around haha.
> I turned everything to ultra low and sound off to be able to play along
> the second time I went (and failed, because of bad coordination of groups)
> SF
>

Ah -

Well, while appreciate the idea and (former) difficulty, albeit I didn't 
get to kill him at 842M health I agree that they probably had to tone it 
back.  I read they had some server crashes, as well as trying to 
coordinate 100+ people with no simple way to coordinate via raid chats. 
  Not saying it was impossible (obviously it wasn't) but as time goes 
by, it would have become increasingly difficult to get a group of enough 
players together to get him.

He was only at designed health for 2 weeks.  I commend all of you who 
had the chance and downed him as designed during that time.  Think you 
should get a feat of strength for that.   :)    Had I known they were 
planning this I would have made more an effort to get in to experience 
it as you guys did.  As I said - I felt a little let disappointed, but 
I'm glad to see it wasn't due to any hype, but to a nerf....

...Now - they need to address the worst quest in the game I've ever 
experienced that was introduced....The Crumbled Chamberlain.  This must 
be the most absurd quest for the reward given in game.  It comes with 
phase 3, has 4 parts you have to collect from various spawn points all 
over the island, (so all 4 spawn at different locations), is for both 
Ally & Horde, and once is picked up, it spawns later at a different time 
AND can only be picked up by one player.   It took me two days to 
complete it due to people camping out various spawn points, and diving 
for it if and when it came up.  I read of people staying in a spot for 
30 minutes and missing it when it came up.
The reward?  A stone....one stone of three you need for the group quest 
line....Now if it were an extra key to the treasure trove, maybe...but I 
will never do this quest again. Thank GOD it is not part of the dailies. 
  I don't know what intern thought this would be a great addition, but 
that person needs to be sentenced to 30 days at a Chinese Warcraft gold 
farming prison....  :)

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:22:01 -0400, IYM <nor...@whitehouse.gov>
wrote:

>Well, while appreciate the idea and (former) difficulty, albeit I didn't 
>get to kill him at 842M health I agree that they probably had to tone it 
>back.  I read they had some server crashes, as well as trying to 
>coordinate 100+ people with no simple way to coordinate via raid chats. 
>  Not saying it was impossible (obviously it wasn't) but as time goes 
>by, it would have become increasingly difficult to get a group of enough 
>players together to get him.

Yep, especially as a good number would likely get sick of the repair
bills, he's a novelty at the moment but after a few kills and massive
repairbills I think people would get bored. Surprised they went as far
as halving it; I'd have put him to 600M myself, but I can see why it's
been done. 2 hours wiping is a laugh, once, but not something you'll
want to do often unless they buffed him to guaranteed loot for your
trouble...

>...Now - they need to address the worst quest in the game I've ever 
>experienced that was introduced....The Crumbled Chamberlain.  This must 
>be the most absurd quest for the reward given in game.  It comes with 
>phase 3, has 4 parts you have to collect from various spawn points all 
>over the island, (so all 4 spawn at different locations), is for both 
>Ally & Horde, and once is picked up, it spawns later at a different time 
>AND can only be picked up by one player.   It took me two days to 
>complete it due to people camping out various spawn points, and diving 
>for it if and when it came up.  I read of people staying in a spot for 
>30 minutes and missing it when it came up.

They already fixed that a couple of days back, it spawns in the same
place constantly for a day now. I was wondering what everyone was
complaining about, since I first encountered it after the fix went in!

>The reward?  A stone....one stone of three you need for the group quest 
>line....Now if it were an extra key to the treasure trove, maybe...but I 
>will never do this quest again. Thank GOD it is not part of the dailies. 
>  I don't know what intern thought this would be a great addition, but 
>that person needs to be sentenced to 30 days at a Chinese Warcraft gold 
>farming prison....  :)

Nothing wrong with it since they fixed it, I personally found it
really fun, trying to figure out how to reach the weirdly placed ones
lol. Before the fix, I'd agree, whoever thought it was a good idea to
have the spawns change every time someone looted must have never
played on a server with more than extremely low pop :-P

On 3/22/2013 2:54 PM, Catriona R wrote:
>
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:22:01 -0400, IYM <nor...@whitehouse.gov>
> wrote:
>
>> Well, while appreciate the idea and (former) difficulty, albeit I didn't
>> get to kill him at 842M health I agree that they probably had to tone it
>> back.  I read they had some server crashes, as well as trying to
>> coordinate 100+ people with no simple way to coordinate via raid chats.
>>   Not saying it was impossible (obviously it wasn't) but as time goes
>> by, it would have become increasingly difficult to get a group of enough
>> players together to get him.
>
> Yep, especially as a good number would likely get sick of the repair
> bills, he's a novelty at the moment but after a few kills and massive
> repairbills I think people would get bored. Surprised they went as far
> as halving it; I'd have put him to 600M myself, but I can see why it's
> been done. 2 hours wiping is a laugh, once, but not something you'll
> want to do often unless they buffed him to guaranteed loot for your
> trouble...

They probably halved it as most went in and could, (if done correctly), 
down him with two raid groups (80 players).  So they probably figured 
that if they halve it, then a single 40 man raid group could down him 
now.  So that explains why I was felt like "That was it?  really?!?" 
when after 2 minutes it was over.  We had a group over double than what 
was required.  Imagine how long the Sha or Gallion would stay alive if 
100 people are attacking him?  :)

>
>> ...Now - they need to address the worst quest in the game I've ever
>> experienced that was introduced....The Crumbled Chamberlain.  This must
>> be the most absurd quest for the reward given in game.  It comes with
>> phase 3, has 4 parts you have to collect from various spawn points all
>> over the island, (so all 4 spawn at different locations), is for both
>> Ally & Horde, and once is picked up, it spawns later at a different time
>> AND can only be picked up by one player.   It took me two days to
>> complete it due to people camping out various spawn points, and diving
>> for it if and when it came up.  I read of people staying in a spot for
>> 30 minutes and missing it when it came up.
>
> They already fixed that a couple of days back, it spawns in the same
> place constantly for a day now. I was wondering what everyone was
> complaining about, since I first encountered it after the fix went in!

OK then...I did the quest before the fix.  I saw the "!" on the stairs 
last night with my alt and said "Not on your life am I touching that" 
heh....

  Before the fix, I'd agree, whoever thought it was a good idea to
> have the spawns change every time someone looted must have never
> played on a server with more than extremely low pop :-P

'Zactly...Don't mind the funky placed items.  That I agree was 
interesting / fun...Does the item still remain in place after someone 
picks it up (available for all) or does it still have to spawn?  If it 
is still a first come, first get item I still wont do it then.  Now it's 
in one spot so people may just be standing around it waiting to pounce, 
knowing it'll be there.  Before, some camped, while others ran off to 
check other locations...  Again, the reward just wasn't worth the 
investment in time.

Side note:  While jumping in lizard form looking for the shoulders I was 
jumping the rocks with HUGE jumps.  I jumped from the top of one cliff 
and overshot the next....and landed in the middle of 10 mobs sitting 
around a fire with that floating skeletal boss thing... No prob...theyre 
all yellow to me...pals...buddies...Apparently, the area is juuuust 
outside the required disguise area, and right after I land, I turn back 
to normal form and the whole planet jumped me....I felt like the looney 
toon Yosemite Sam as he's floating down to his pirate ship laughing, 
then slowly stops laughing and changes to "uh-oh" as he floats down 
through the open hatch to the big smiling shark in the hold below...

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:32:34 -0400, IYM <nor...@whitehouse.gov>
wrote:

>On 3/22/2013 2:54 PM, Catriona R wrote:
>  Before the fix, I'd agree, whoever thought it was a good idea to
>> have the spawns change every time someone looted must have never
>> played on a server with more than extremely low pop :-P
>
>'Zactly...Don't mind the funky placed items.  That I agree was 
>interesting / fun...Does the item still remain in place after someone 
>picks it up (available for all) or does it still have to spawn?  If it 
>is still a first come, first get item I still wont do it then.  Now it's 
>in one spot so people may just be standing around it waiting to pounce, 
>knowing it'll be there.  Before, some camped, while others ran off to 
>check other locations...  Again, the reward just wasn't worth the 
>investment in time.

It stays in place permanently for the day, everyone can loot one after
the other, thankfully!

>Side note:  While jumping in lizard form looking for the shoulders I was 
>jumping the rocks with HUGE jumps.  I jumped from the top of one cliff 
>and overshot the next....and landed in the middle of 10 mobs sitting 
>around a fire with that floating skeletal boss thing... No prob...theyre 
>all yellow to me...pals...buddies...Apparently, the area is juuuust 
>outside the required disguise area, and right after I land, I turn back 
>to normal form and the whole planet jumped me....I felt like the looney 
>toon Yosemite Sam as he's floating down to his pirate ship laughing, 
>then slowly stops laughing and changes to "uh-oh" as he floats down 
>through the open hatch to the big smiling shark in the hold below...

Haha I can just picture that one! Very easy to do lol, I've found
myself headed further than intended on those jumps too, absolutely
love that form though, wish it could be used everywhere!