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Re: Lightspeed constant...

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From: mum...
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 00:00
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In article <32907D...@vax1.bemidji.msus.edu>,
Grant Schoep  <bi...@vax1.bemidji.msus.edu> wrote:
>jimbo wrote:
>> 
>> m...@cctr.umkc.edu writes:
>> > John M Clancy wrote:
>> > > Wrong! Einstein's equasions break down AT the speed of light.
>> > > There is nothing that says you cannot go BEYOND the speed of light.
>> > > Ever here of Tachyons?
>> > >
>> > > Similarly, Newtonian physics does not apply at the atomic level
>> > > therefore we have Quantum physics.
>> >
>> > for those wondering:
>> >
>> > tachy*on \'tak-e-�n\ n (1967): a hypothetical particle held to travel
>> > faster than light.
>> 
>> I supect the equations do not break down rather they become undefined.
>> The maths can still be done by using a limits approach, (The calculus)
>> which is in fact how it is done. The equations break down in The SI
>> unit system at the swarzchild radius of a black hole.
>> 
>> love jimbo.    :)
> Ok, as long as we are talk undefined lets look at what undefined is.
>Undefined is infinity over infinity. So in other words anything. And

No...

a: infinity over infinity is nothing... infinity is not a number, it 
cannot be specified in mathematical formulae.  That's the entire idea
behind calculus and "approaching infinity."

b: 1/0 is undefined, not the other way around (you were speaking of saying
undefinied is some formula instead of some formula being undefined).
Undefined is a conecpt applied to a lot of mathematical equations, so
no one definition can be thought of to be its definition.

c: 0/0 is undefinied:  however obvious it may seem that this should be
1, it's not, and that's the very heart of undefinied.

>anything could be anything. And that means nothing is impossible. The

having a value being undefinied does not mean it takes on some unknown
value.  If it takes on a value, it's definied; it's irrelevant whether
we know what that value is or not.  Infinity over infinity (as you put
it) has no definition, it could not be "anything."

>only cure for things that are impossible is time. With enough time, the 
>human race will overcome anything that someone says is impossible.

Only if the impossible is later found to be possible.  If scientists
now are ultimately correct about lightspeed being a barrier for all
matter in our universe (which I do, in fact, believe), then this is
one impossibility that won't be overcome no matter how much time we
have.

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