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Re: Lightspeed constant...

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From: Michael Chajkowski
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:00
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dicer wrote:
> 
> In article <56sc4a$o...@phaedrus.kralizec.net.au>,
> rrudek@zeta.org.au.NoJunkMail (Richard RUDEK) wrote:
> 
> > Ripper <rip...@flash.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> :>You people need to be a little more creative. You don't need
headlights
> > >> :>at the speed of light. All you have to do is put a big
reflector at the
> > >> :>rear end of the car. As bright as your car will be glowing
at that
> > >> :>speed, it will illuminate its own way. Duh!
> > >> :>
> > >> :>-Raffi
> >
> > >Quick question. How's it gonna light its own way when the car
is
> > >traveling at the same speed as the light being used to
illuminate the
> > >way? You would not see any light at all if you were traveling at
light
> > >speed because the light would never catch up to you if it were
behind
> > >you, and you would never catch up to it if it was ahead of you.
So
> >

The trouble with this quandry is that one has no need for
"headlights" at
that speed, as when we reach the speed of light, our mass is
infinite,
therefore filling the whole universe.  At that speed, by the above
statement, we have instant access to every point in the universe, the
trouble
is in choosing the right point to start decelerating.

One more observation, the above quandry is exemplified by the
thought
experiment that follows:

Two ships are travelling at the speed of light in opposite
directions, how fast
are they receding from each other and can they see each other.

The answer is perplexing, they are receding from each other at the
speed of
light and are also receding from an object in between them at the
speed of light.
Due to the special properties of light, they can also see each other
racing
away from both the centre point and each other.

<snip> ...

> One can NOT travel at the speed of light.  So...

Quick correction here, there is nothing that prevents us from
reaching the
speed of light, except the theory of relativity.  This states that as
we
draw closer to the speed of light, our mass increases exponentially
and we
need ever increasing amounts of fuel to move that mass.

There is a way around the fuel/mass conundrum that is provided by the
theory
of Unified Fields.  Basically, this states that instead of gravity
waves
pulling us together, it is gravity waves PUSHING us together. 
Through some
very complex mathematics and some incredibly simple technology, we
can
utilize the power of the universe to PULL us around ...

Read here, POWER OF THE UNIVERSE means that we can attain speeds
approaching
or even reaching the speed of light.  One other inconvenience solved
by Unified
Fields is that the incredible forces acting on a craft and its
occupants are
nullified by the same field that allows us to use the power of the
universe.  One
place to get an idea of what unified fields can do for us is to read
Issac Asimov's
Foundation series of books.  Near the end of the series, humanity
develops ships
based on unified fields providing apparently incredible abilities.

> STATEMENT:
> If one could attain the velocity c, then [statement here] would be
true.
> 
> TRANSLAION:
> P --> Q
> 
> Remeber that if P is false, then the statement is true NO MATTER
WHAT you
> put into [statement here].  P is, in fact, false.  So teh
conditional above
> is meaningless.
> 
> An example:
> - If one could attain the velocity c, then one's headlights would
> illuminate objects normally.
> - If one could attain the velocity c, then one's headlights would
NOT
> illuminate objects normally.
> 
> Both of these are valid statements and both are evaluated to
"true"
> (because the anticedents of both are false).  So the statements
tell us
> nothing about the condition of one's headlights.
> 
> So any statement you make about your headlights which are traveling
at the
> speed of light is meaningless because it is true regardless of what
you say
> of them.
> 
> sorry...

Correct here!
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From: Michael Chajkowski <mic...@superiway.net>
Subject: Re: Lightspeed constant...
Date: 1996/11/27
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