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Re: So, what is engineering good for?

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From: Anon
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 18:49
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On 29/03/2014 2:53 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> Catriona R <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in news:bplg3hFl8gcU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>>
>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:57:41 -0500, Cryptoengineer
>> <pete...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> With not-to-much-trouble, I've levelled my gnome lock to 615
>>> in Engineering. I've got the Goblin Glider (handy!), and the
>>> Synapse Springs.
>>>
>>> What next? How can I monetize this?
>>>
>>> Unlike Alchemy, nearly all the products of engineering are
>>> only usable by engineers. There's thus little market, since
>>> anyone who can use them, can make their own.
>>>
>>> About the only things that seem marketable are some of the
>>> pets (Pierre, Rascal-Bot), and the Sky Golem. Those all
>>> require massive amounts of mats obtained on cooldowns, and
>>> I'd probably be able to make one only every two weeks
>>> (fortunately, my main is a maxed alchemist, and can do the
>>> transmutes). They go for 4-5 figure prices in my AH, and I
>>> expect the markets kind of thin.
>>>
>>> What else? Portable mailboxes? Big cooking bags? What sells?
>>
>> Don't think anyone's yet mentioned scopes, there's one which goes for
>> a few hundred g on my server at least... but chances are every other
>> engineer is trying to sell it too!
>>
>
> I'm sure there's an addon to do this, but the economics don't look too
> good. I really should use a spreadsheet for this...
>
> On my server, converting engineering mats isn't too proftiable,
> 120 Ghost Iron Ore -> 60 GI Bars -> 6 Trillium Bars -> 1 Living Steel
> has a quite low profit margin at each step.

transmute master +20% 60 bars -> 1.4 LS   if you do enough

> GIO ~ 2.5g, GIB ~ 7g, TB ~ 50g, LS ~ 350g
>
> 2 White Trillium Ore and 2 Black TO can be smelted to 1 TB.
> 5 TO can be bought for 1 Spirit of Harmony.
> -> 1 TB = 0.4 SoH
>
> Using Riddle of Steel allows you to use 3 TB and 3 Spirits of Harmony
> instead. 3 SoH can also make 6 Golden Lotus, which go for about
> 40g each on my server - a much more profitable use, more so when used
> in flasks.
>
> 5 Trillium Ore can be bought for 1 Spirit of Harmony.
> 2 White Trillium Ore and 2 Black TO can be smelted to 1 TB.
> 5 TO can be bought for 1 Spirit of Harmony.
> 1 TB = 0.8 SoH, and 4.8 SoH -> 1 LS
>
> 10 GIBs -> 1 Jards Peculiar Energy Source
>
> Pierre & Rascal-Bot pets = 15 JPES and 15 LS each = 1050 GIBs.
> They sell for around 3500g and 5kg respectively. = a net loss
>
> Sky Golem = 30 JPES and 30 LS = 2100 GIBs, and sells for around
> 19k - which is quite profitable, but hardly a steady income

do they actually sell for that? i.e actually get shifted?

https://theunderminejournal.com/item.php?item=95416
availability remains more or less consistent, maybe increasing, but the 
price is going down.
  This doesn't show how many are made on order or bespoke from customer 
mats. More would tend to go that way once the price gets down to mats 
level, but availability indicates not quite there yet.

> I think I'm going to farm GIBs until I have enough for a SG, then
> see what is profitable at that point. Just *storing* 2100 GIBs will
> be a challenge ... need a new bank alt.
  Best idea, but really only make it for direct sale to someone you know 
or from their mats. Not just on the off chance of what the ah lists for. 
Cod can be held and you are now lumbered, make from your mats and they 
can just say they will only pay 2k less than the agreed price..some 
people think that may even work.


   on the other hand you could sell all the bars for 13-15k or so, minus 
ah cuts if you sell in small lots on the ah
  Odds are it would mostly sell along the way and that is the converging 
price for golems anyway on the bottom graphs.
Horde is, as so often, way higher for mats and items so that could 
favour you if you are over there.

You can store 240 in one mail packet for 30 days for next to no cost.
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