🚀 go-pugleaf

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 19:23:04 +0100, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum>
wrote:

>Den 29-11-2013 18:37, Catriona R skrev:
>> I'd like to be able to make some connections on my realm again, but
>> people are so demanding that it's pretty much impossible to join most
>> runs - nowadays it's ilvl and achievement needed, once again, you
>> can't do a place (to *get* the achievement) until you've got the
>> achievement and better gear than drops there. Maybe people are less
>> picky on low pop realms and actually let other people join their
>> groups?
>
>I dont recognize what youre writing as I'm on a lowlowlowpop realm. :) 
>We just pick up what applies for an empty slot, does the job and cheers.

That is how I've love it to be; it's never ever been that way on my
realm, even when we were only "medium" pop :-( Well, maybe it was in
vanilla, I had a guild then and didn't pug beyond 5-mans, but
certainly from TBC on, trade has always been full of really picky
groups wanting ubergeared people.

>I popped on mmo-champion's forum yesterday, read a thread about a player 
>who whined about the insane requirements for a simple flex in first 2 wings.
>
><http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1405088-How-the-hell-am-i-supposed-to-get-into-raids>
>
>I really do understand his frustrations.  Now and then I consider a 
>realtransfer to a highpop like silvermoon as things can evolve a bit too 
>slow on my realm.  So I log my lvl 1 priest there and read /trade in SW. 
>  Christ, what a kindergarden...

Lol yeah. Silvermoon Alliance is pretty much the same as Draenor Horde
as population levels go; I have an alt there myself, don't read trade
but can imagine it's just exactly the same as on Draenor. High pop
realms have a real deterioration in community IMO, Draenor had a
lovely community in the early days, even if you didn't know people
personally, you'd see them round town enough to recognise most names
around you. Nowadays I hardly recognise anyone, there's just so many
people around that it's a sea of anonymous people. Yeah, grouping
would aid it a bit, but I think the population's still too big to
improve the community that way - heck, I've been grouping for
worldbosses most weeks all through this expansion, still don't
recognise any names!

>On my realm we *do* have some unwritten requirements for tanks and 
>healers.  But we're mostly fine with two 525-535 healers and a single 
>500 healer (they never running on fumes during a normal flex boss fight 
>anyway).  So in the big picture we dont really care about ilvl as long 
>as we know we have a raid with average skilled players aaaaaaand 
>patience.  Its all about common sense.

How I would love that :-) I imagine there are *some* groups like that
on my server, but I gave up years back, the demanding people make so
much noise that it's hard to find the sensible ones, and you pretty
much have an expectation that every pug requires crazy high ilvl,
achievement and vent as a minimum. My ilvl (539) probably just about
meets requirements, but... no achievement and no vent, so forget it
lol. And frankly I don't want to group with people who are that picky,
as they'll also be the types to start kicking the instant anything
goes wrong, so it'll be more stress than fun.