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Re: Issue? Old thread about running old WC games in DOSBOX

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From: Anon
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:09
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On 17/11/2013 8:45 PM, | || ||| ||||| || | wrote:
> "Michael" <Conjure...@t-online.de> wrote in message
> news:l69vjc$c6h$1@tota-refugium.de...
>> Am 17.11.2013 03:41, schrieb tim.ma...@gmail.com:

>> You probably need DOSBOX to get an old DOS game to run on a nowadays
>> operating system.
>> http://www.dosbox.com/
>
> But if they haven't played before it probably isn't worth the effort.
>
> [ in general for 20 year old games  you once played ]
> It used to run in probably 320x240 , maybe 640x480, maybe on a high end $500
> 14 inch, on a 33 MHz pc with a 80 Megabyte drive and 2M of memory   and it
> was magnificent , compared to anything else that was around.
>
> in your memory   The game is 7680x4320 100hz  64 bit with glowing golden
> pixels
>                                well worth the $3000 a decent PC cost back
> then to run it ($7500 in todays money)
> the reality             gremlins must have erased it and substituted this
> chunky scratchy clunky 8/16 bit dreck
>
>
> The whole point of the graphics is to distract you until the mind control
> locks in, then it could just as well be alpha text and stick figures. So
> what will todays killer game and graphics on $3000 hardware look like in
> 20years? :-)

Cleaning out the junk I found some old games
Dune, WCI and III, civ, dungeonkeeper
and gave DOSBOX a try
it really is very good
with some tweaks a lot of these old favourites kinda worked.
By the time of WC2 it even had some self setting of soundcards.

Usually tuning so as not to fly off the map in 0.01ms was the major 
problem , sometimes sound , sometimes mouse but mostly they were 
workable and DOSBOX works fine on win 64bit.

Many had checks and the manuals long ago turned to mouse nests but a bit 
of google turned up old prints and cracks.

If you hanker after the old stuff you -could- give it a go
BUT
unfortunately...apart from Hack which still runs in win64 anyway they 
really are nothing like the memory
In fact most are really pretty dreadful
It isn't the graphics, it is that mostly they are just so unergonomic
click to select, click to move, minimal options, groups,waypoints,
they are pretty much straight down the rails
a zerg, a build, a case of RSI

Your memories do the games the justice they deserve for the service they 
gave at the time. Trying them now puts them hopelessly out of context.
If you must then DOSBOX is useful if a bit tweaky, then again the games 
used to be very tweaky on many systems anyway.

In the meantime I have been enjoying hack, at the moment I play it more 
than Planetside 2, at least I last more than a minute and for all the 
graphics it makes just as much sense :-)
2.5MB vs 12.5GB
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetHack

There really hasn't been that much change apart from the graphics, and a 
bit more ergonomic. The bags are still too tiny, but at least Hack 
simulated slowing down if you tried to carry a horse in your backpack :-)
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